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  • rb4x
    Regular in the Side
    • Dec 2007
    • 968

    Originally posted by stellation
    Pardon my ignorance, but does anyone know the main differences now between a senior list and a category A rookie list spot? I gather there are salary cap concessions for the rookie list for the club ($80k of their salary doesn't count against the cap), and it seems these players don't have to be elevated to the senior list to play.

    It looks like there's no cap on how much a player can earn as a category A rookie- is there a cap on how many years they can be contracted for?
    One rule that still seems in place is that you can not be on the rookie list for more than three years. Hawthorn have moved a player to the senior list for that reason. The rule that you can have only one third year rookie may have gone or been changed to exclude Cat B as McLean and Wicks would be both 3rd year.

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    • bloodspirit
      Clubman
      • Apr 2015
      • 4448

      Cal Twomey's latest and final draft form guide has dropped: https://www.afl.com.au/news/526016/cal-twomey-s-phantom-form-guide-december-update.
      All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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      • Markwebbos
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2016
        • 7186

        Originally posted by waswan
        Just read Hollands not expected to play til June next year, will end up at Bombers
        That's terrible news for us. Where did you read that?

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        • Markwebbos
          Veterans List
          • Jul 2016
          • 7186

          Mind you, in better news, the Hun is reporting that North may take Archie Perkins at pick 2!

          Search Results | Herald Sun

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          • The Big Cat
            On the veteran's list
            • Apr 2006
            • 2356

            Originally posted by bloodspirit
            Cal Twomey's latest and final draft form guide has dropped: https://www.afl.com.au/news/526016/cal-twomey-s-phantom-form-guide-december-update.
            Campbell at 8 and Gulden at 24. Swans would take that in an instant.
            Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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            • bloodspirit
              Clubman
              • Apr 2015
              • 4448

              Originally posted by The Big Cat
              Campbell at 8 and Gulden at 24. Swans would take that in an instant.
              Yes, I think that would fit within what we have budgeted for.

              It will be more interesting to see Twomey's Phantom Draft (which doesn't merely rate players but forecasts the order he thinks they will be picked) which will be released on Monday night. His track record is good but it will be a tough year for him this year I think.

              MW, do you say Hollands' injury update is "terrible news for us" because it reduces the chances of him being selected before our pick or for some different reason e.g. you hate the Bombers and the idea of them getting a draft steal? It's not entirely clear what you mean.
              All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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              • Markwebbos
                Veterans List
                • Jul 2016
                • 7186

                Originally posted by bloodspirit
                Yes, I think that would fit within what we have budgeted for.

                It will be more interesting to see Twomey's Phantom Draft (which doesn't merely rate players but forecasts the order he thinks they will be picked) which will be released on Monday night. His track record is good but it will be a tough year for him this year I think.

                MW, do you say Hollands' injury update is "terrible news for us" because it reduces the chances of him being selected before our pick or for some different reason e.g. you hate the Bombers and the idea of them getting a draft steal? It's not entirely clear what you mean.
                There was/is conjecture that one or other of the Crows or North would pick Hollands before us, which would guarantee we'd be able to pick either RT or LMcD, a KPF. Had both talls already been picked, I hoped Hollands was seriously being considered for our pick 3(4).

                The update on his ACL, if true, makes all of those scenarios less likely. Look at Brodie Kemp last year who slid to pick 17.

                I would of course love to see the Bombers (well Dodoro) get screwed. It sounds like they refused to offer a satisfactory deal to North for pick 2, so that is a minor victory already. Sadly, with the picks they've got I don't see how they could stuff this draft up.

                As an aside, I find it interesting that we've shown lots of interest in DGB. Based on KB's past form, this almost guarantees that we won't pick him. It really feels like no one has a clue what's going to happen. Which is exciting, and would be even more so if we had pick 2 not 3.

                I'm also amazed at how much movement there is in draft rankings without any of the draftees actually playing. Bruhn seems to be the big slider and Perkins the bolter, I'm just not sure on what basis?

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  Sounds like the Crows will pick JUH as number 1

                  'We believe he should be No.1': Crows won't play games with top pick

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                  • 707
                    Veterans List
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 6204

                    Originally posted by The Big Cat
                    Campbell at 8 and Gulden at 24. Swans would take that in an instant.
                    Start the car! Would only take our first two picks and downgrade 40 to 52 to claim Campbell. Then matching Gulden would leave us with two early 50s picks, project ruckman? Papley Jnr? a Vic slider our recruiters like?

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                    • waswan
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 2047

                      I reckon its DGB..... if McDonald isnt available

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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        Originally posted by 707
                        Start the car! Would only take our first two picks and downgrade 40 to 52 to claim Campbell. Then matching Gulden would leave us with two early 50s picks, project ruckman? Papley Jnr? a Vic slider our recruiters like?
                        There are quite a few ruck prospects who might be available... depending on who we draft at pick 3

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                        • longmile
                          Crumber
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 3367

                          Originally posted by waswan
                          I reckon its DGB..... if McDonald isnt available
                          Really hope McDonald is still available. I don't buy into us needing a KPD, we have a much more urgent need for a KPF or a young ruck.

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                          • Cosmic Wizard
                            recruit me pretty please!
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 620

                            Originally posted by 707
                            Start the car! Would only take our first two picks and downgrade 40 to 52 to claim Campbell. Then matching Gulden would leave us with two early 50s picks, project ruckman? Papley Jnr? a Vic slider our recruiters like?
                            If Essendon, or anyone else, bids on another player before Campbell we are home free!

                            UGL will force the Western Bulldogs to use up their points, but Collingwood and the Power also have highly rated players. It would be just Dorro form to screw those clubs over. If Essendon bids on McInnes or Jones we will have picks left over.
                            doof-doof

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                            • gloveski
                              Senior Player
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1018

                              Looks like Adelaide will bid on JUH with pick 1 according to an interview with nicks


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                              • bloodspirit
                                Clubman
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 4448

                                Originally posted by gloveski
                                Looks like Adelaide will bid on JUH with pick 1 according to an interview with nicks


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                                He said the player they'll bid for will be the player they think is the best and they wouldn't bid on JUH unless they think he's that player. Not quite the same thing, even though most pundits say they think JUH is the best. Clubs often have their own rankings that differ to one another and probably even more so to the media pundits.
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