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  • 707
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2009
    • 6204

    Game time back to normal but rotations down from 90 to, is it 75? this season. As rotations come down, endurance becomes a bigger factor so players like Stephens become more valuable to the team as they are on the ground longer and get to more contests.

    Good interview with Cox, was obviously given time to prepare his answers so who he selected were not off the top of the head picks

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    • TheBloods
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Feb 2020
      • 2047

      Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
      Yes, as a reserves watcher, I always liked Wicks. I was consistently impressed that he nearly always topped the tackle count. He could also show the occasional bit of flair. And I'm pleased that Cox reckons he's improved his attacking skills and his tank.

      Also liked Ling, but that was more from glimpses, rather than a body of work. Although I didn't have him down as the next Nick Smith, more of a pacy and elusive wingman. Though of course, if he shows some dash out of defence, there's no reason why he can't be shifted to midfield.

      And Stephens is the youngster, whose development I'm most looking forward to seeing. Skilful user of the ball, reportedly an excellent attitude, and elite endurance. Since he's still eligible for the rising star, I occasionally think that he might be a good bet, but then I remember that Rowell is still eligible.
      I dont think Rowell is eligible as he was already nominated in 2020.

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16786

        Originally posted by TheBloods
        I dont think Rowell is eligible as he was already nominated in 2020.
        He is.

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        • dejavoodoo44
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2015
          • 8727

          Originally posted by TheBloods
          I dont think Rowell is eligible as he was already nominated in 2020.
          That doesn't seem to make a difference. The criteria are under 21 at the start of the year and to have only played 10 games or less.

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          • dejavoodoo44
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2015
            • 8727

            Originally posted by liz
            He is.
            And he's currently the odds on favourite at $1.30. The only other players under $10 are Ugle-Hagan at $7 and Green (GWS) at $9. Of our players, Campbell is at $17, and Stephens, Gulden and McDonald are all at $26. Personally, I'd have Stephens as our shortest priced chance.

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            • TheBloods
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Feb 2020
              • 2047

              Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
              That doesn't seem to make a difference. The criteria are under 21 at the start of the year and to have only played 10 games or less.
              The criteria for that award are, quite frankly, bewildering.

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              • MattW
                Veterans List
                • May 2011
                • 4232

                Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                And he's currently the odds on favourite at $1.30. The only other players under $10 are Ugle-Hagan at $7 and Green (GWS) at $9. Of our players, Campbell is at $17, and Stephens, Gulden and McDonald are all at $26. Personally, I'd have Stephens as our shortest priced chance.
                Re Stephens: definitely.

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                • The Runner
                  Regular in the Side
                  • May 2017
                  • 718

                  Originally posted by Ludwig
                  It's an evincive article, in that Dean Cox selected the 4 players.

                  The important comments were about Ling and Wicks, I thought.

                  It was foreshadowed last year that Ling was being trained up for a lock down small defender role. But with Cunningham, Fox and O'Riordan already playing that role, Ling will have trouble dislodging anyone from the backline. He could be a 7th defender with Cunningham taking some stints in the midfield. Braeden Campbell, a player with very similar attributes, has also been slated for backline duties by Longmire. It's good to hear that Ling is entering the season healthy and in good form for the first time in his 4 years at the club.

                  Wicks is developing into the player that we thought Ronke would be. The question is whether we will play a defensive forward, given the depth we have at small forward. Ben Ronke is a very determined player and will give it his best if fit, and his best game is pretty good. Bell, Squizzy, Campbell, Gulden, Ling and McInerney will all be vying for spots as outside players starting from either end of the ground.

                  It's indicative of the depth of young talent the Swans have coming into this season.
                  Would a spot for Ling open up with Mills moving to the middle?
                  I'd love to see Ling displacing Cunningham by the end of the year. Harry has been a great servant and given his all. But I don't think he'll be there in our next premiership tilt sadly.

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                  • Blood Fever
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 4051

                    Originally posted by The Runner
                    Would a spot for Ling open up with Mills moving to the middle?
                    I'd love to see Ling displacing Cunningham by the end of the year. Harry has been a great servant and given his all. But I don't think he'll be there in our next premiership tilt sadly.
                    Disagree on Harry. Underrated player still only 27. Versatile and very quick.

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                    • Ludwig
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9359

                      Originally posted by The Runner
                      Would a spot for Ling open up with Mills moving to the middle?
                      I'd love to see Ling displacing Cunningham by the end of the year. Harry has been a great servant and given his all. But I don't think he'll be there in our next premiership tilt sadly.
                      I think we will go with the side we ended with last season, except that Rampe comes in to replace Mills. I also think it's more likely that Dawson will be the swingman ahead of Mills to go back and fill in for an injured backman, while Mills will settle in as part of the stoppage crew. But we now have several backline choices to go to ahead of either Dawson or Mills, namely COR, Gould, Ling and Campbell. BOC may also develop rapidly and look to get a senior game or 2 this year. So plenty of talent and not many open spots.

                      I disagree about Cunningham, especially now that he's in the leadership group. He should be at the top of his game this year. His defensive work is quite solid now. He also provides pace off the backline with a long kick, albeit not always the most accurate. He can also play through the midfield, even on-ball if need be.

                      It's hard to say how things will evolve during the season. It depends on which of the talented youngsters develops to warrant a spot in the senior side.

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                      • Blood Fever
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4051

                        Originally posted by Ludwig
                        I think we will go with the side we ended with last season, except that Rampe comes in to replace Mills. I also think it's more likely that Dawson will be the swingman ahead of Mills to go back and fill in for an injured backman, while Mills will settle in as part of the stoppage crew. But we now have several backline choices to go to ahead of either Dawson or Mills, namely COR, Gould, Ling and Campbell. BOC may also develop rapidly and look to get a senior game or 2 this year. So plenty of talent and not many open spots.

                        I disagree about Cunningham, especially now that he's in the leadership group. He should be at the top of his game this year. His defensive work is quite solid now. He also provides pace off the backline with a long kick, albeit not always the most accurate. He can also play through the midfield, even on-ball if need be.

                        It's hard to say how things will evolve during the season. It depends on which of the talented youngsters develops to warrant a spot in the senior side.
                        We do have a lot of depth in our list now, except probably in the ruck.

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                        • stevoswan
                          Veterans List
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 8573

                          Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                          And he's currently the odds on favourite at $1.30. The only other players under $10 are Ugle-Hagan at $7 and Green (GWS) at $9. Of our players, Campbell is at $17, and Stephens, Gulden and McDonald are all at $26. Personally, I'd have Stephens as our shortest priced chance.
                          Green didn't play more than ten games for GWS last year?? Wow....I'm suprised.

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                          • bloodspirit
                            Clubman
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 4448

                            Originally posted by Blood Fever
                            We do have a lot of depth in our list now, except probably in the ruck.
                            And KPFs. Buddy is in his twilight - can't see him being extended after 2022. It's hard to know how long Sam Reid will continue but he is nearer the end than the beginning. Logan McDonald was an essential and promising pick up and but is unproven at this stage. McLean and Amartey are forward/rucks and have clouded futures. Maybe Blakey could play forward in future, if required. That's not a lot of depth. If Paddy McCartin can come good though - that would change everything. He is the perfect age and could mentor and be a foil for McDonald after Buddy leaves.
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                            • dejavoodoo44
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 8727

                              Originally posted by stevoswan
                              Green didn't play more than ten games for GWS last year?? Wow....I'm suprised.
                              According to the stats, he only played six. Which is surprising, since he debuted in round one. He's also got a rising star nomination, for his performance against Collingwood.

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                              • 707
                                Veterans List
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 6204

                                Originally posted by TheBloods
                                The criteria for that award are, quite frankly, bewildering.
                                No, very clear, 21 years of age or under, 10 career games or less. On what he showed in four games last year, Matt Rowell is a shoe in, unless he has a large chunk of the season out with injury

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