2021 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    Short contracts benefit the club more than the player, so I'm comfortable with 2-3 year contracts.

    At the end of the day, a premiership team is built around players who buy-in big time to the club, and dont chase top dollar. Its almost a given that stars need to accept unders to fit in a premiership team. I'm sure the Bont could have got a few hundred thousand dollars more on the open market.
    So if Tom is buying into the next premiership, he aint going nowhere in 2 years time. And if he aint buying in, then we arent winning a flag anyway.

    Some could say the reason the Giants havent won a flag is they havent had that sort of buy-in, and every year there has been an exodus of players leaving for better money. This eats away at the soul of a club.

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    • Aprilbr
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2016
      • 1803

      Agreed that a 3 to 4 years is better in the case of McCartin but we will just have to wear 2 years. We should be right in the premiership window by then so him leaving would be unlikely. Certainly some priority re-signings left now.

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      • Ralph Dawg
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2018
        • 1729

        You can't keep them all. As the young players we want to keep start to command more money, others will have to go. RB, Chad, JMac, Errol, Campbell, McDonald etc will all need bigger contracts than they are currently on. So it may be that we will have to let some favourites go, especially if they are offered huge money by a cashed up rival.

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        • MattW
          Veterans List
          • May 2011
          • 4196

          Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
          You can't keep them all. As the young players we want to keep start to command more money, others will have to go. RB, Chad, JMac, Errol, Campbell, McDonald etc will all need bigger contracts than they are currently on. So it may be that we will have to let some favourites go, especially if they are offered huge money by a cashed up rival.
          Cheers Gillon.

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          • Nico
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 11330

            Originally posted by barry
            Short contracts benefit the club more than the player, so I'm comfortable with 2-3 year contracts.

            At the end of the day, a premiership team is built around players who buy-in big time to the club, and dont chase top dollar. Its almost a given that stars need to accept unders to fit in a premiership team. I'm sure the Bont could have got a few hundred thousand dollars more on the open market.
            So if Tom is buying into the next premiership, he aint going nowhere in 2 years time. And if he aint buying in, then we arent winning a flag anyway.

            Some could say the reason the Giants havent won a flag is they havent had that sort of buy-in, and every year there has been an exodus of players leaving for better money. This eats away at the soul of a club.
            Lets not forget Barry that player managers have a big say in the contract length. If we pick up P. McCartin in the mid season draft that might precipitate an extension by Tom past 2023. Also the Buddy factor ceases with season 2023.

            Dawson must be the next signing.
            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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            • 0918330512
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2011
              • 1654

              Originally posted by Nico
              Lets not forget Barry that player managers have a big say in the contract length. If we pick up P. McCartin in the mid season draft that might precipitate an extension by Tom past 2023. Also the Buddy factor ceases with season 2023.
              Buddy’s current contract ceases in 2023

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              Originally posted by barry
              Some could say the reason the Giants havent won a flag is they havent had that sort of buy-in, and every year there has been an exodus of players leaving for better money. This eats away at the soul of a club.
              If it’s eating away at the soul of GW$ it’ll go away famished as there wasn’t much of a soul in that manufactured monstrosity to start with

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              • 707
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                There's a new CBA due for the 2024 season so lot's of re-signings (like McCartin) will be to the end of 2023. By then players and clubs will know the salary cap size going forward from 2024.

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                • Auntie.Gerald
                  Veterans List
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 6474

                  2022 for bud

                  AFL 2021: Lance Franklin, return to footy, Sydney Swans, Hawthorn, 1000 goals, contract, new deal, injuries, news
                  "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                  • dejavoodoo44
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 8515

                    Originally posted by 707
                    There's a new CBA due for the 2024 season so lot's of re-signings (like McCartin) will be to the end of 2023. By then players and clubs will know the salary cap size going forward from 2024.
                    That makes sense.

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                    • Ruck'n'Roll
                      Ego alta, ergo ictus
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 3990

                      Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                      You can't keep them all. As the young players we want to keep start to command more money, others will have to go. RB, Chad, JMac, Errol, Campbell, McDonald etc will all need bigger contracts than they are currently on. So it may be that we will have to let some favourites go, especially if they are offered huge money by a cashed up rival.
                      I think you may be overestimating the situation, I doubt any of the players listed (nor anyone else on the list for that matter) will ever occupy such a huge chunk of the Swans TPP budget as did Tippett and Buddy - or at least I hope not.

                      Certainly all the players mentioned will want more money, but it is my hope that the "more money" in question will almost always be less than the amount needed to recruit them away from their currant club/teammates, especially if it entails relocating interstate as well. Notwithstanding the allure the Melbourne goldfish bowl may exert on the less well-adjusted footballers.

                      And I believe that's how things will play out, unless the Swans lose their minds and recruit a player that requires 10-15% of the entire annual salary cap all by himself.

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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        Swans biggest “sliders” in terms of Champion Data ranking points:

                        Hewett, Blakey, Cunningham

                        No Cookies | Herald Sun

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                        • Mountain Man
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 907

                          Did Paddy McCartin actually nominate for the mid season draft?

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                          • aardvark
                            Veterans List
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 5685

                            Originally posted by Mountain Man
                            Did Paddy McCartin actually nominate for the mid season draft?
                            Mid-Season Draft: All the nominations, club selections confirmed

                            Yup! and Will Papley is there too.

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                            • southsideswan
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 237

                              wow so many. Not knowing what room or requirements clubs have I would image only 20 to 50 taken out of 603

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                              • TheBloods
                                Suspended by the MRP
                                • Feb 2020
                                • 2047

                                Originally posted by Markwebbos
                                Swans biggest “sliders” in terms of Champion Data ranking points:

                                Hewett, Blakey, Cunningham

                                No Cookies | Herald Sun
                                Dont care what "Champion data" say we'd be F'd without Cunningham ! Great defender and leader in the back six

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