2021 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[TheBloods]

I’m a massive fan of Sir James, but what I think happened this year was that he was given Hewett’s role as a defensive mid (with George tried in defence), but for a variety of reasons they’ve brought GH back and this has pushed RB out.

I know that’s stating the obvious.

I suspect a large part of that is for RB’s development.

Very interested to see whether George stays or goes.

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The Chad is more of a Dangerfield, RB a Mitchell type.

He was in the defensive mid role because its all he can offer . Mitchell types are redundant and hes not even good enough for that - not big enough, strong enough, composed enough or skilled enough to win loads of ball on the inside

Cant just be a tackler for the rest of his career

[Bangalore Swans]

Good call I suspect that not every one has looked at the actual facts readily available in the link you posted.

I need to settle this Chad v Rowbottom statistical analysis with an example from another sport.

Andy Flower was a wicket keeper batsman from Zimbabwea. He averaged over 51 with the bat in a test career. Adam Gilchrist averaged 47.

Anyone who is trying to argue that Gilchrist is not the GOAT of wicket keeper batting and that Flower is the GOAT, based on the above stats does not have a feel for the game.

Conversely anyone who is trying to argue that Rowbottom is equal or even better than Chad based on statistical analysis does not have a feel for the game.

Chad makes the unlikely happen. In a final Chad could bust the game open in a brilliant 10min burst. Rowbottom will be a solid contributor but is unlikely to bust a game open with a burst of football.

I feel that this Chad V Rowbottom analysis is a construction on those on Red and White who can’t accept or appreciate the direct and outstanding analysis that TheBloods provides on young players on this forum.

[Goal Sneak]

I need to settle this Chad v Rowbottom statistical analysis with an example from another sport.

Andy Flower was a wicket keeper batsman from Zimbabwea. He averaged over 51 with the bat in a test career. Adam Gilchrist averaged 47.

Anyone who is trying to argue that Gilchrist is not the GOAT of wicket keeper batting and that Flower is the GOAT, based on the above stats does not have a feel for the game.

Conversely anyone who is trying to argue that Rowbottom is equal or even better than Chad based on statistical analysis does not have a feel for the game.

Chad makes the unlikely happen. In a final Chad could bust the game open in a brilliant 10min burst. Rowbottom will be a solid contributor but is unlikely to bust a game open with a burst of football.

I feel that this Chad V Rowbottom analysis is a construction on those on Red and White who can’t accept or appreciate the direct and outstanding analysis that TheBloods provides on young players on this forum.

If only we could all feel the game like yourself and other outstanding analysts.

[longmile]

If only we could all feel the game like yourself and other outstanding analysts.

This! If only I could see and understand the game like some certain posters on here. Alas, I am left to squalor in my own footballing ineptitude until the light of other posters is able to bask upon me and show me the error of my ways!

[TheBloods]

I need to settle this Chad v Rowbottom statistical analysis with an example from another sport.

Andy Flower was a wicket keeper batsman from Zimbabwea. He averaged over 51 with the bat in a test career. Adam Gilchrist averaged 47.

Anyone who is trying to argue that Gilchrist is not the GOAT of wicket keeper batting and that Flower is the GOAT, based on the above stats does not have a feel for the game.

Conversely anyone who is trying to argue that Rowbottom is equal or even better than Chad based on statistical analysis does not have a feel for the game.

Chad makes the unlikely happen. In a final Chad could bust the game open in a brilliant 10min burst. Rowbottom will be a solid contributor but is unlikely to bust a game open with a burst of football.

I feel that this Chad V Rowbottom analysis is a construction on those on Red and White who can’t accept or appreciate the direct and outstanding analysis that TheBloods provides on young players on this forum.

Agree on Chad v RB but FMD no one knows any more or less than the rest , last thing we want to do is sit around trying to find out who on RWO has the best analysis , we'd end up looking like those galahs on Fox footy

Leave that to them and we can stay bloods supporters who arent interested in proving who has the biggest you know what and are only interested in what is best for the CLUB

[Faunac8]

I need to settle this Chad v Rowbottom statistical analysis with an example from another sport.

Andy Flower was a wicket keeper batsman from Zimbabwea. He averaged over 51 with the bat in a test career. Adam Gilchrist averaged 47.

Anyone who is trying to argue that Gilchrist is not the GOAT of wicket keeper batting and that Flower is the GOAT, based on the above stats does not have a feel for the game.

Conversely anyone who is trying to argue that Rowbottom is equal or even better than Chad based on statistical analysis does not have a feel for the game.

Chad makes the unlikely happen. In a final Chad could bust the game open in a brilliant 10min burst. Rowbottom will be a solid contributor but is unlikely to bust a game open with a burst of football.

I feel that this Chad V Rowbottom analysis is a construction on those on Red and White who can’t accept or appreciate the direct and outstanding analysis that TheBloods provides on young players on this forum.

Oh well that’s settled thanks for your declaration of my, and the clear majority of other posters inability to understand the game I have enjoyed for 40 years. I always believed that a team was the sum of many individuals who delivered different skills and abilities.
And I am also sorry that I have failed to accept your alter ego’s outstanding analysis as the final pronouncement on the subject.

[NeonBible]

James Rowbottom’s sister Charlie was taken at pick one in the AFL W draft to the Gold Coast.

Do you think it would be an interesting play for the Gold Coast Suns to try and trade for James?

As our midfield continues to evolve with top end talent and the future prospect of throwing in Dawson, Gulden, Chad and Heeney into the centre bounces, should Rowbottom look for another club opportunity?

Charlie is a great girl. Much more of a larrikin than her brother. Would be fantastic to be able to get her to join the Swans when our AFLW side lands!!

[707]

Come on guys - this is the TRADING/DRAFTING/LIST MANAGEMENT thread

Please take the incessant non related Rowbottom value analysis to another thread as it is not related to this thread!

[Auntie.Gerald]

if no one interacts you might be lucky to see 2 Patt-a-bum posts instead of 102 !

it is an absolute G up

[Ruck'n'Roll]

We could give Sinclair another year and push on with our current ruck stocks until post 2022. Chol may not be an improvement on Amartey in that Ruck forward position, and we just go with Reid and Amartey for depth in that role.

It seems like there's a lot of competition for ruckmen this year, so maybe we can push off the decision one more year, since I would think everyone is more than happy to go with Hickey next year and 2023.

I like your current thinking on the ruck situation more. What makes you think the competition for ruckman will be particularly hot this year? I'm asking because the media were talking a ruck roundabout last trade period and very few (3?) actually ended up moving.

[i'm-uninformed2]

I need to settle this Chad v Rowbottom statistical analysis with an example from another sport.

Andy Flower was a wicket keeper batsman from Zimbabwea. He averaged over 51 with the bat in a test career. Adam Gilchrist averaged 47.

Anyone who is trying to argue that Gilchrist is not the GOAT of wicket keeper batting and that Flower is the GOAT, based on the above stats does not have a feel for the game.

Conversely anyone who is trying to argue that Rowbottom is equal or even better than Chad based on statistical analysis does not have a feel for the game.

Chad makes the unlikely happen. In a final Chad could bust the game open in a brilliant 10min burst. Rowbottom will be a solid contributor but is unlikely to bust a game open with a burst of football.

I feel that this Chad V Rowbottom analysis is a construction on those on Red and White who can’t accept or appreciate the direct and outstanding analysis that TheBloods provides on young players on this forum.

Lord this is boring. I can't remember which one of you was wailing away on JB earlier this year and said he couldn't do this and that, and someone sent through a highlights clip of his game against GWS last year showing all those things.

He's playing injured this year, so he's not playing at his best. And he'll possibly lose his spot in the side for it.

We're lucky to have him and Chad coming through our ranks, and if you disagree, go rag on the coaches who placed JB 7th in the B&F last year.

[Ludwig]

What makes you think the competition for ruckman will be particularly hot this year? I'm asking because the media were talking a ruck roundabout last trade period and very few (3?) actually ended up moving.

I'm just going by what I hear in the news. There are a lot of clubs looking for ruckmen. This is often the case. With Hickey playing so well, we're not so desperate to get into a bidding war. In any case, it's going to be hard to convince a young ruckman, like Hayes or CCJ, to come to the Swans to be a backup to Hickey. They're looking to be numero uno.

By the end of next year we will have a better idea about McAndrew's prospects as a Hickey replacement and take it from there.

If something comes up this year where we can get a good ruck prospect, we might consider recruiting him and drop Sinclair. Otherwise, it might be Sinclair backing up again next year.

[Ludwig]

Conversely anyone who is trying to argue that Rowbottom is equal or even better than Chad based on statistical analysis does not have a feel for the game.

Conversely, anyone who doesn't have a feel for statistics shouldn't be using statistical arguments to make his case. Let's drop the talk about disposals and clearances. It's okay to say "I like the look of this player" or "I don't have a good feeling about that player". Just no more stats. Leave that for those with numeracy skills.

[joeykanga]

Charlie is a great girl. Much more of a larrikin than her brother. Would be fantastic to be able to get her to join the Swans when our AFLW side lands!!

Hopefully Charlie will come to us when we have a woman’s team

[Maltopia]

Someone suggested we try for Darcy Moore, but he turned us down last time.

Mason Cox is unsigned. Could he be a forward ruck for us?