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  • Aprilbr
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2016
    • 1803

    #16
    How incredible is this latest betting market?

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    • stevoswan
      Veterans List
      • Sep 2014
      • 8543

      #17
      Two from two for the Rising Star......next week Logan?

      Two for two: Another Swan rewarded with Rising Star nod

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      • mcs
        Travelling Swannie!!
        • Jul 2007
        • 8149

        #18
        Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
        The AFL "Round So Far" had this interesting chart:

        Goals from forwards in first two career games:

        Jack Riewoldt: 0 (668 career)
        Josh Kennedy: 2 (647)
        Tom Hawkins: 7 (605)
        Jeremy Cameron: 4 (405)
        Tom Lynch: 0 (350)
        Logan McDonald: 5 (5)
        Some on this board would have delisted Lynch and Riewoldt after that horrendous return in their first 2 games lol.

        Great start from Logan however - that year in the WAFL seems to have him exceptionally well prepared to make a good initial impact in AFL footy.
        "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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        • wolftone57
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2008
          • 5835

          #19
          Originally posted by mcs
          Some on this board would have delisted Lynch and Riewoldt after that horrendous return in their first 2 games lol.

          Great start from Logan however - that year in the WAFL seems to have him exceptionally well prepared to make a good initial impact in AFL footy.
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          • mcs
            Travelling Swannie!!
            • Jul 2007
            • 8149

            #20
            Originally posted by wolftone57
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            And didn't get a single touch in his first game - just 1 tackle. The bit of the stats I don't get from his first game (May be an error) was he conceded one free kick and got one free kick - but didn't have a disposal...
            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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            • dejavoodoo44
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2015
              • 8491

              #21
              Originally posted by mcs
              And didn't get a single touch in his first game - just 1 tackle. The bit of the stats I don't get from his first game (May be an error) was he conceded one free kick and got one free kick - but didn't have a disposal...
              Maybe he got a free, missed his boot when he went to kick it and was penalized for incorrect disposal? Although a more commonplace explanation, would be his free was on the siren and he didn't take his kick.

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              • liz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16733

                #22
                Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                Maybe he got a free, missed his boot when he went to kick it and was penalized for incorrect disposal? Although a more commonplace explanation, would be his free was on the siren and he didn't take his kick.
                Or his team played onto advantage.

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                • Thunder Shaker
                  Aut vincere aut mori
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 4154

                  #23
                  Originally posted by mcs
                  And didn't get a single touch in his first game - just 1 tackle. The bit of the stats I don't get from his first game (May be an error) was he conceded one free kick and got one free kick - but didn't have a disposal...
                  Let's look more closely. I'm using the AFL Tables version of these statistics.

                  1 tackle, 1 free for, 1 free against, 1 contested possession, but no kicks or handpasses recorded.

                  How can there be a contested possession without a kick or handpass? I think there's an error here.
                  "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                  • Goal Sneak
                    Out of Bounds on the Full
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 653

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                    Let's look more closely. I'm using the AFL Tables version of these statistics.

                    1 tackle, 1 free for, 1 free against, 1 contested possession, but no kicks or handpasses recorded.

                    How can there be a contested possession without a kick or handpass? I think there's an error here.
                    What if the ball is kicked inside 50, it goes to ground and he wins the contested possession, only to be tackled high before he can dispose of the ball. Gets a free kick and kicks it out of bounds on the full when having a shot at goal.
                    Does his kick count as a disposal if out on the full?

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                    • dejavoodoo44
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 8491

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                      Let's look more closely. I'm using the AFL Tables version of these statistics.

                      1 tackle, 1 free for, 1 free against, 1 contested possession, but no kicks or handpasses recorded.

                      How can there be a contested possession without a kick or handpass? I think there's an error here.
                      I think a free kick counts as a contested possession. So if he got a free, and then either, someone else in his team played on to advantage, or the siren sounded before he could take his kick: then the stats would be correct.

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                      • KTigers
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 2499

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Goal Sneak
                        What if the ball is kicked inside 50, it goes to ground and he wins the contested possession, only to be tackled high before he can dispose of the ball. Gets a free kick and kicks it out of bounds on the full when having a shot at goal.
                        Does his kick count as a disposal if out on the full?
                        I think that in future that kick could be counted under a newly created s*** kick category.

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                        • mcs
                          Travelling Swannie!!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8149

                          #27
                          Glad it wasn't only me that found that stat confusing. Could well just be an error - I only looked it up as he talked about not getting a possession in his first game last week when talking about Mcdonald, and was intrigued to see if he was broadly correct. Kinda wanna see the possession of his 'free for' to see what happened now ha!
                          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                          • Bangalore Swans
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Mar 2021
                            • 1049

                            #28
                            Do people think the Campbell, McDonald and Guldon draft is the best Swans draft of the decade?

                            Other good drafts include:

                            2013 - Jones, Nankervis, Allir and Hewitt (all top best 22 footballers even mostly for other teams).

                            2014 - Heeney and Dawson

                            2018 - Blakey, Rowbottom, McInerey

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                            • Markwebbos
                              Veterans List
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 7186

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                              Do people think the Campbell, McDonald and Guldon draft is the best Swans draft of the decade?

                              Other good drafts include:

                              2013 - Jones, Nankervis, Allir and Hewitt (all top best 22 footballers even mostly for other teams).

                              2014 - Heeney and Dawson

                              2018 - Blakey, Rowbottom, McInerey
                              At this point I would say the last draft was better than any of those you’ve cited.

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                              Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                              I think a free kick counts as a contested possession. So if he got a free, and then either, someone else in his team played on to advantage, or the siren sounded before he could take his kick: then the stats would be correct.
                              What about if the free got reversed? Does the original possession get recorded?

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                              • bloodspirit
                                Clubman
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 4448

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Markwebbos
                                At this point I would say the last draft was better than any of those you’ve cited.
                                I agree. They're off to a flyer. 2018 draft haul in 2nd place. Could change if Blakey really gets his act together but 2020 is looking like an all time great draft haul at this early stage.
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