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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9359

    Originally posted by barry
    Why are we (unbeaten) worrying so much about a forward line from a team that's won one game?
    Trust the system.
    I agree. What's the purpose of having depth if we are going into a panic at the first injury we get. Okay, Rampe is out for a few weeks. It's a big loss. Let's bring in our best replacement defender and move on. What are all those players on our list with the word "defender" next to there names there for but to come in and play our system when one of our first team players goes down with injury?

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    • Markwebbos
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2016
      • 7186

      Originally posted by barry
      Why are we (unbeaten) worrying so much about a forward line from a team that's won one game?
      Trust the system.
      I wrote on another thread that the faster ball movement this year means less "system" and more one-on-one defending. I think it's perfectly reasonable to question how we are going to defend their forward line. Particularly with our best defender out.

      Lets hope we score more than 100 points again and the ball is mostly up the other end. If GW$ start winning the (centre) clearances, the ball could be coming in pretty fast.
      Last edited by Markwebbos; 12 April 2021, 08:48 PM.

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      • jono2707
        Goes up to 11
        • Oct 2007
        • 3326

        Originally posted by barry
        Why are we (unbeaten) worrying so much about a forward line from a team that's won one game?
        Trust the system.
        Correctomundo - they only beat Collingwood on the weekend. They should be much more concerned about stopping us.

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        • mcs
          Travelling Swannie!!
          • Jul 2007
          • 8177

          Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
          It is bizaare isn't it? Even last year when we were so short on talls he still didn't get a chance. I'll be optimistic and say they only want him in when he's well and truly ready and when that time comes, watch out!
          He wouldn't be the first defender of his type to serve a long apprenticeship to be honest - plenty have.

          I'm sure the kid is a massive talent and will do well when his chance comes - but some of the laughable commentary on some social media sites in particular around his 'non-selection' has been hilarious. You'd think he was already a triple brownlow medallist by the way some have been bleating on about him not getting a game haha.
          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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          • Blood Fever
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 4051

            Originally posted by mcs
            He wouldn't be the first defender of his type to serve a long apprenticeship to be honest - plenty have.

            I'm sure the kid is a massive talent and will do well when his chance comes - but some of the laughable commentary on some social media sites in particular around his 'non-selection' has been hilarious. You'd think he was already a triple brownlow medallist by the way some have been bleating on about him not getting a game haha.
            Hope I'm wrong but could be one who did very well in junior footy because.of his size but can't graduate to AFL level. Slipped to around pick 20 IIRC. Not everyone makes it.

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            • Bangalore Swans
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Mar 2021
              • 1049

              Get Gould in. 2nd year player with lots of potential. You know what your going to get from Melican.

              If you get Gould in the upside benefits could be significant. If it doesn’t work out, Melican can come in.

              My changes

              Outs

              Heeney
              Rampe
              McDonald

              Boundary Line Crash and Bash

              Ins

              Hayward
              Rowbottom
              Gould

              Corridor Football, daring kicking, quick movement, play on and 110 plus points.

              Ads some flexibility. Hayward plays as defensive forward on Haynes. Hayward can also play halfback. Rowbottom playing can allow Mills to play in the back 6 if required.

              I think if the Swans play their beautiful football from weeks 1-3 then their defenders are protected as the offence is scoring quick points.

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              • Thunder Shaker
                Aut vincere aut mori
                • Apr 2004
                • 4226

                Originally posted by barry
                Why are we (unbeaten) worrying so much about a forward line from a team that's won one game?
                Trust the system.
                Good post.

                Let's look at the form of GWS:
                Round 1: Lost to St Kilda by 8 points. Saints got flogged by Essendon, who we beat.
                Round 2: Lost to Fremantle by 31 points. Fremantle are 2 wins and and 2 losses.
                Round 3: Lost to Melbourne by 34 points. Melbourne are unbeaten so far.
                Round 4: Beat Collingwood by 5 goals. A lot of questions being asked about Collingwood's chances this year.
                "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                • Nico
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 11343

                  Will Hayward coming in will once again give him the opportunity to show he is not in our best 22.
                  http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                  • waswan
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 2047

                    Hayward in to Tag Haynes, Horse was over the moon with him last year when he beat him well

                    Melican for Ramps

                    Rowy if fit for J Mac

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                    • TheBloods
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Feb 2020
                      • 2047

                      Originally posted by waswan
                      Hayward in to Tag Haynes, Horse was over the moon with him last year when he beat him well

                      Melican for Ramps

                      Rowy if fit for J Mac
                      Good joke

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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        OUT: Heeney, Rampe, Campbell
                        IN: Hayward, Melican, Gould

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                        • KTigers
                          Senior Player
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 2499

                          Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                          Good post.

                          Let's look at the form of GWS:
                          Round 1: Lost to St Kilda by 8 points. Saints got flogged by Essendon, who we beat.
                          Round 2: Lost to Fremantle by 31 points. Fremantle are 2 wins and and 2 losses.
                          Round 3: Lost to Melbourne by 34 points. Melbourne are unbeaten so far.
                          Round 4: Beat Collingwood by 5 goals. A lot of questions being asked about Collingwood's chances this year.
                          I don't think this stuff matters that much. If we're up 5% and they are down 5%, we'll win comfortably. And vice versa.

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                          • Ruck'n'Roll
                            Ego alta, ergo ictus
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 3990

                            Originally posted by mcs
                            I'm sure the kid (Gould) is a massive talent and will do well when his chance comes - but some of the laughable commentary on some social media sites in particular around his 'non-selection' has been hilarious. You'd think he was already a triple brownlow medallist by the way some have been bleating on about him not getting a game haha.
                            Agreed, there's quite a choir isn't there. I'm sure Gould will get a game if/when his performance merits it, I remember reading a bit about Kieran Jack that when he arrived, the new boys were set down and told that it didn't matter whether you were drafted in the first round or were a rookie selection - what mattered was how you applied yourself now that you were at the club.


                            I just saw the GWS game, Mummy had an absolute cracker for three quarters. He's older than Buddy and got negligible leap and has slowed down considerably since the 2019 granny - so I wonder whether he will get successive games.
                            If he does he might make things interesting for Tom "Wild Thing" Hiickey - I for one would have to think carefully before taking the ball out of the ruck, maybe just use it at boundary throw ins and maybe the centre square, around the ground ball ups with Mummy actually standing next to you might be contraindicated.
                            Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 13 April 2021, 07:00 AM.

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                            • SwanSand
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Aug 2020
                              • 529

                              Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                              Agreed, there's quite a choir isn't there. I'm sure Gould will get a game if/when his performance merits it, I remember reading a bit about Kieran Jack that when he arrived, the new boys were set down and told that it didn't matter whether you were drafted in the first round or were a rookie selection - what mattered was how you applied yourself now that you were at the club.


                              I just saw the GWS game, Mummy had an absolute cracker for three quarters. He's older than Buddy and got negligible leap and has slowed down considerably since the 2019 granny - so I wonder whether he will get successive games.
                              If he does he might make things interesting for Tom "Wild Thing" Hiickey - I for one would have to think carefully before taking the ball out of the ruck, maybe just use it at boundary throw ins and maybe the centre square, around the ground ball ups with Mummy actually standing next to you might be contraindicated.
                              Wouldn’t be surprised if Cameron plays Mummy. But mummy won’t have the same impact for Four quarters. He plays angry against us which means he will be brutal in the first 2 quarters. We may get a few free kicks out of that if we play smart. After the first 2 quarters I would think Hickey should run him to the ground. Mummy won’t be able to keep up.
                              Just like Toby gets them to play well so does Mummy but he is not consistent week in week out.

                              I am more worried of playing against their forward line. They are fast, skilful and dead eye for goals. And we need to quell their inside mids - hopper, green, and Taranto.

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                              • SwanSand
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Aug 2020
                                • 529

                                Originally posted by SwanSand
                                Wouldn’t be surprised if Cameron plays Mummy. But mummy won’t have the same impact for Four quarters. He plays angry against us which means he will be brutal in the first 2 quarters. We may get a few free kicks out of that if we play smart. After the first 2 quarters I would think Hickey should run him to the ground. Mummy won’t be able to keep up.
                                Just like Toby gets them to play well so does Mummy but he is not consistent week in week out.

                                I am more worried of playing against their forward line. They are fast, skilful and dead eye for goals. And we need to quell their inside mids - hopper, green, and Taranto.
                                Duursma from port has also hyperextended his knee and would be gone for 12-14 weeks. Not sure if it is in the same category as Rowbottom.

                                Do we think Sam Naismith will be back playing after the break? That would be helpful if we do end up doing well through the year - to have a full ruck team healthy and ready to go.

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