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  • SwanSand
    Regular in the Side
    • Aug 2020
    • 529

    #31
    We need someone to play like Fox did when we beat Geelong at the GMHBA few years ago. We usually match well with Geelong game style but our midfield is struggling so I would say ... rest the injured, let’s not worry about winning this game but get the injured right in 2 -3 weeks.

    Stephens, Logan, Ling, Clarke, Lewis Taylor, Sam Gray, Colin Oriordan, Amartey, Gould - all to come in to replace whoever is injured.

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    • bloodspirit
      Clubman
      • Apr 2015
      • 4448

      #32
      I passed by training today and the most interesting thing I learned was that almost all our "injured" players were training, some of them with the fluro cap. That included Tom Hickey (with cap)!! And Robbie Fox. And Sam Naismith (no cap). Doesn't mean they'll play but so fascinating. Didn't they report that Hickey had done his PCL and would be out two months?

      I had a brief word to Nick Blakey and got the impression he is likely to play this weekend.

      Does anyone know what the go is with Ben Ronke? I can't remember the last time I saw him around - might have been some time in the pre-season.
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      • longmile
        Crumber
        • Apr 2011
        • 3373

        #33
        Originally posted by bloodspirit
        I passed by training today and the most interesting thing I learned was that almost all our "injured" players were training, some of them with the fluro cap. That included Tom Hickey (with cap)!! And Robbie Fox. And Sam Naismith (no cap). Doesn't mean they'll play but so fascinating. Didn't they report that Hickey had done his PCL and would be out two months?

        I had a brief word to Nick Blakey and got the impression he is likely to play this weekend.

        Does anyone know what the go is with Ben Ronke? I can't remember the last time I saw him around - might have been some time in the pre-season.
        Interesting. What kind of training? Don't imagine someone who had just done his PCL would be doing any kind of training...

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        • bloodspirit
          Clubman
          • Apr 2015
          • 4448

          #34
          Originally posted by longmile
          Interesting. What kind of training? Don't imagine someone who had just done his PCL would be doing any kind of training...
          Tom Hickey was playing in the match sim (or whatever it was). In the ruck. Actually playing. I can't explain it. I'm just telling you what I saw.

          Didn't see Buddy, Hewett or Sam Reid.
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          • bloodspirit
            Clubman
            • Apr 2015
            • 4448

            #35
            Given our injuries, and the way that Geelong put West Coast away last week, I think we have to be prepared for Horse to shift to a much more defensive game plan for this game so that we don't get blown away the same way WC were.
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            • Captain
              Captain of the Side
              • Feb 2004
              • 3602

              #36
              Originally posted by bloodspirit
              Tom Hickey was playing in the match sim (or whatever it was). In the ruck. Actually playing. I can't explain it. I'm just telling you what I saw.

              Didn't see Buddy, Hewett or Sam Reid.
              Wow, guess that’s positive then!!

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              • SwanSand
                Regular in the Side
                • Aug 2020
                • 529

                #37
                Originally posted by Captain
                Wow, guess that’s positive then!!
                Positive or really negative. Short term gain may lead to really long term pain.

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                • longmile
                  Crumber
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 3373

                  #38
                  Originally posted by bloodspirit
                  Tom Hickey was playing in the match sim (or whatever it was). In the ruck. Actually playing. I can't explain it. I'm just telling you what I saw.

                  Didn't see Buddy, Hewett or Sam Reid.
                  How bizarre...

                  Fox and Naismith are probably due back ... but Hickey? He's pretty unmistakable too, so it couldn't be anyone else really

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    #39
                    Did Goodes play through a PCL injury without missing a game?

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                    • bloodspirit
                      Clubman
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 4448

                      #40
                      Originally posted by longmile
                      How bizarre...

                      Fox and Naismith are probably due back ... but Hickey? He's pretty unmistakable too, so it couldn't be anyone else really
                      His knee was strapped and he wasn't really having to compete for the tap at the ball ups, nobody was jumping into him. But he was running around on the ground with all the other players.
                      All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                      • Ruck'n'Roll
                        Ego alta, ergo ictus
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 3990

                        #41
                        Originally posted by bloodspirit
                        Tom Hickey was playing in the match sim (or whatever it was). In the ruck. Actually playing. I can't explain it. I'm just telling you what I saw.
                        You sure you didn't mistake this chap for Tom Hickey.

                        Google Image Result for https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1d/b6/76/1db6760e97ec5d62d8e1af48e70e1c61.jpg

                        They look quite similar to my eyes

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                        • bloodspirit
                          Clubman
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 4448

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                          You sure you didn't mistake this chap for Tom Hickey.

                          Google Image Result for https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1d/b6/76/1db6760e97ec5d62d8e1af48e70e1c61.jpg

                          They look quite similar to my eyes
                          No, he was definitely wearing a fluro cap and had a bandage on his knee. Plus wearing the Swans uniformn, not a sack. Otherwise, yes, the similarities are uncanny.
                          All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                          • Nico
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 11343

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Markwebbos
                            Did Goodes play through a PCL injury without missing a game?
                            Yes, and I believe CHB which meant he could play straight ahead with minimal turning.
                            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                            • Thunder Shaker
                              Aut vincere aut mori
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 4226

                              #44
                              Originally posted by bloodspirit
                              Given our injuries, and the way that Geelong put West Coast away last week, I think we have to be prepared for Horse to shift to a much more defensive game plan for this game so that we don't get blown away the same way WC were.
                              West Coast were playing away. West Coast's record this year: 3 home games for 3 wins, 3 away games for 3 losses. Their record is so skewed that they defeated Port Adelaide at home (Port's only loss) and then lost to St Kilda away (one of St Kilda's two wins) in consecutive weeks.

                              Our game against West Coast will be at the SCG near the end of the season.

                              Kardinia Park has not been a good venue for West Coast. They have lost their last seven games there. Their only win there this century was in 2006, with one draw there in 2003. Their record this century at Kardinia Park is 1 win, 1 draw, 10 losses. Overall, their record there is 8 wins, 1 draw, 16 losses.

                              West Coast are looking like a side drifting through the season without attaining great heights.

                              By contrast, Kardinia Park has been a real fortress for Geelong. They have played 154 games there this century for 123 wins, 2 draws and 29 losses. After 2009, their record there is 73 wins and 10 losses. The 10 losses were Sydney (2011, 2016, 2017, 2018), Fremantle (2013 finals, 2015), Carlton (2020), GWS (2019), Melbourne (2015), North Melbourne (2015).

                              So I wouldn't read a lot into Geelong flogging a team they've not lost to at the venue for 15 years.

                              Geelong's recent record at the SCG has been fairly good. They have won their last two games there, but those were in 2018 and 2019. Since 2010, they have played there for 4 wins and 2 losses. One of those losses was by 110 points, Geelong's most recent loss by over 100 points.
                              "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                              • Kafka's Ghost
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Sep 2017
                                • 911

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                                West Coast were playing away. West Coast's record this year: 3 home games for 3 wins, 3 away games for 3 losses. Their record is so skewed that they defeated Port Adelaide at home (Port's only loss) and then lost to St Kilda away (one of St Kilda's two wins) in consecutive weeks.

                                Our game against West Coast will be at the SCG near the end of the season.

                                Kardinia Park has not been a good venue for West Coast. They have lost their last seven games there. Their only win there this century was in 2006, with one draw there in 2003. Their record this century at Kardinia Park is 1 win, 1 draw, 10 losses. Overall, their record there is 8 wins, 1 draw, 16 losses.

                                West Coast are looking like a side drifting through the season without attaining great heights.
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                                By contrast, Kardinia Park has been a real fortress for Geelong. They have played 154 games there this century for 123 wins, 2 draws and 29 losses. After 2009, their record there is 73 wins and 10 losses. The 10 losses were Sydney (2011, 2016, 2017, 2018), Fremantle (2013 finals, 2015), Carlton (2020), GWS (2019), Melbourne (2015), North Melbourne (2015).

                                So I wouldn't read a lot into Geelong flogging a team they've not lost to at the venue for 15 years.

                                Geelong's recent record at the SCG has been fairly good. They have won their last two games there, but those were in 2018 and 2019. Since 2010, they have played there for 4 wins and 2 losses. One of those losses was by 110 points, Geelong's most recent loss by over 100 points.
                                WC won at Kardinia Park in 2006, you say...,. Wonder if they had the pre-game dexamethasone that day, too?

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