Match Thread. Swans v Geelong.

[Go Swannies]

I think TheBloods is way off base insultingly questioning whether Rowbottom "is all there" (and why insult our own players if you support them?) - but I do think Rowbottom should have done more to get rid of the ball in that instance.

Rowbottom had to pause to put his head back on after that "tackle". And if he'd let the ball come free it probably would have been soccered off the ground to win the game for the Cats.

[Meg]

Paps on 774 Radio Sunday arvo said Rowy knew how much time was left. Sounds like he made an intelligent well thought out decision and it paid off.

H’mmm in my view he still should have at least made some punching motions at the ball. That action is usually enough to give the umpire cause not to call HTB. Just hunching over the ball was a dangerous gamble.

[aardvark]

H’mmm in my view he still should have at least made some punching motions at the ball. That action is usually enough to give the umpire cause not to call HTB. Just hunching over the ball was a dangerous gamble.

You're probably right.

[bloodspirit]

H’mmm in my view he still should have at least made some punching motions at the ball. That action is usually enough to give the umpire cause not to call HTB. Just hunching over the ball was a dangerous gamble.

Yep. There was really just a second in it being whistled for HTB and I find it hard to believe Rowy knew with complete confidence how much time there was left to the second?.

[stevoswan]

Yep. There was really just a second in it being whistled for HTB and I find it hard to believe Rowy knew with complete confidence how much time there was left to the second?.

I think he was rightfully expecting a whistle for high contact.....which of course, was never coming. Maybe he was just stunned for a moment....and then got lucky. It matters not now anyway.

[dejavoodoo44]

Yep. There was really just a second in it being whistled for HTB and I find it hard to believe Rowy knew with complete confidence how much time there was left to the second?.

Although, was he actually being tackled? Without going back and checking, I think Selwood had one arm up appealing, the other arm resting on Rowbottom's back and perhaps his knees were making contact with Rowbottom's head: which may have been high contact? I could be wrong, but if you're not being tackled, I don't think you have any obligation to do anything with the ball. Although just hanging around and doing nothing, might not be in the spirit of the game?

[Wardy]

I think he was rightfully expecting a whistle for high contact.....which of course, was never coming. Maybe he was just stunned for a moment....and then got lucky. It matters not now anyway.

Agree because Selwood clipped Rowbottom fair across the head very clearly and then stuck his knees into his head for good measure. So suck eggs Selwood!

[bloodspirit]

Although, was he actually being tackled? Without going back and checking, I think Selwood had one arm up appealing, the other arm resting on Rowbottom's back and perhaps his knees were making contact with Rowbottom's head: which may have been high contact? I could be wrong, but if you're not being tackled, I don't think you have any obligation to do anything with the ball. Although just hanging around and doing nothing, might not be in the spirit of the game?

I definitely think he was "tackled" in the relevant sense. Tacklers routinely raise their arms to the umpires to show that they are not holding the ball in and the tacklee is failing to dispose of the ball despite not being prevented from doing so. And it is usual for the tackler to lie on top of the tackled player (or otherwise use their body to maintain the tackle and prevent the player dishing off to a teammate while doing so). Which is not to discount the argument that the tackle was high.

[111431]

Rowbottom had to pause to put his head back on after that "tackle". And if he'd let the ball come free it probably would have been soccered off the ground to win the game for the Cats.

i would agree with that

[ugg]

Coaches votes

10 Hickey
6 Duncan
4 Henry
3 Florent
3 McCartin
2 Rohan
1 McLean
1 Selwood

Hickey 5-5
Duncan 4-2
Henry 4-0
Florent 3-0
McCartin 3-0
Rohan 2-0
McLean 1-0
Selwood 1-0

One of those weird ones where after the first 2 players, the coaches had no common players.

[i'm-uninformed2]

Coaches votes

10 Hickey
6 Duncan
4 Henry
3 Florent
3 McCartin
2 Rohan
1 McLean
1 Selwood

Hickey 5-5
Duncan 4-2
Henry 4-0
Florent 3-0
McCartin 3-0
Rohan 2-0
McLean 1-0
Selwood 1-0

One of those weird ones where after the first 2 players, the coaches had no common players.

Like, most of that ok - but Rohan? Not wanting to pick on him, but he had a few moments, and no more.

[stevoswan]

Like, most of that ok - but Rohan? Not wanting to pick on him, but he had a few moments, and no more.

Chris Scott being kind......and biased.

[bloodspirit]

Coaches votes

10 Hickey
6 Duncan
4 Henry
3 Florent
3 McCartin
2 Rohan
1 McLean
1 Selwood

Hickey 5-5
Duncan 4-2
Henry 4-0
Florent 3-0
McCartin 3-0
Rohan 2-0
McLean 1-0
Selwood 1-0

One of those weird ones where after the first 2 players, the coaches had no common players.

Thanks. Interesting. It was a strange game because they won the stats and we won the game. I can understand each set of coaches being a little biased towards their own.

I reckon we voted Hickey, Henry, McCartin, Duncan, McLean. Which leaves Florent a bit stiff. I thought Jack Henry was excellent and Horse is quicker to value defence.

[Nico]

No, he's probably not. That's what led him to picking up "someone's" missus one night - because we're now at the point where it's the only thing that can explain this.

Too personal. Disagree all you want but a better use of words would have been more appropriate.

[Nico]

i would agree with that

There was a second on the clock and umpires do not make an immediate snap call, but give players a couple of seconds to move the ball on, and it depends on the circumstances at the time. The umpire didn't have the time to blow the whistle and unlikely he could have paid the free after the siren.