Match Thread. Swans v Geelong.

[Kafka's Ghost]

Precisely. And that's without thinking about the cushy ones they got all night otherwise last night.

As always, a nice write up from these guys of the game - always pretty balanced.

https://themongrelpunt.com/afl-seaso...ongrel-review/

Thanks for sharing this link. An excellent appraisal and analysis of the game.

[bennyfabulous]

Again, I genuinely don't understand how/why a credible journalist wastes time on umpiring decisions, when game analysis is far more interesting and telling re a team's prospects.

The majority these days are bottom feeders, they are sustained/fed on dirt. Negative/controversial stuff sells more papers or allows more comments. Sadly clickbait is the bread & butter of so called 'journalists' these days.

[Thunder Shaker]

The majority these days are bottom feeders, they are sustained/fed on dirt. Negative/controversial stuff sells more papers or allows more comments. Sadly clickbait is the bread & butter of so called 'journalists' these days.

Which is why I seldom read them these days. I prefer meaty analysis to the opinionated speculation, but alas, these are few and far between. The signal to noise ratio of modern journalism is too low.

[dejavoodoo44]

Precisely. And that's without thinking about the cushy ones they got all night otherwise last night.

As always, a nice write up from these guys of the game - always pretty balanced.

https://themongrelpunt.com/afl-seaso...ongrel-review/

Good review. I didn't see the Cats v Eagles game, but I'll take their word for it, that Stanley gave Nic Nat a beating in the ruck. Though it is hard to believe, after what Hickey did to Stanley.

[Scottee]

What appears to have happened with the Hayward mark is that it was touched off Parker's boot but a whistle blown for a mark by the other umpire, then play on called before Hayward could even get up. No wonder Hayward was non_plussed about the call. Should have been a ball up.

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[Bangalore Swans]

I totally agree. I think coaches should be given two DRS referrals a half. The coaches can call for a decision review after the play has stopped. Win or lose the decision they lose a DRS.

They don’t get the DRS reviewed until the play is over:

- point scored
- ball out of bounds
- ball up

This will stop coaches using DRS to hold up fast breaks.

I think it will give the coaches more impact. A good coach will be one that has a review remaining to have a look at the Cameron decision. A good coach will review a free kick against, push in back or holding the ball decision when the outcome of the decision is crucial.

It will give the crowd more excitement and help those upset people who always feel hard done by the umpires.

Well done Leigh Montagna.

AFL news 2021, Jeremy Cameron, Geelong vs Sydney, Captain’s challenge, mark, umpiring decision, First Crack

[Bloods05]

I totally agree. I think coaches should be given two DRS referrals a half. The coaches can call for a decision review after the play has stopped. Win or lose the decision they lose a DRS.

They don’t get the DRS reviewed until the play is over:

- point scored
- ball out of bounds
- ball up

This will stop coaches using DRS to hold up fast breaks.

I think it will give the coaches more impact. A good coach will be one that has a review remaining to have a look at the Cameron decision. A good coach will review a free kick against, push in back or holding the ball decision when the outcome of the decision is crucial.

It will give the crowd more excitement and help those upset people who always feel hard done by the umpires.

Well done Leigh Montagna.

AFL news 2021, Jeremy Cameron, Geelong vs Sydney, Captain’s challenge, mark, umpiring decision, First Crack

Unmitigated rubbish. Leave the game alone.

[Bangalore Swans]

Unmitigated rubbish. Leave the game alone.

Need to keep innovating. AFL needs to keep innovating to insure that teams consistently get to 100 points. The man on the mark change this year has been very good.

Let’s give the AFL coach a DRS. It works brilliantly in the NFL. I just want people going home without the umpiring decisions being so prominent in debate and argument.

Razor Ray leading the instant decision review bunker would be a hit.

[Blue Sun]

Something to consider:
We all agree that the umpires were calling play on as the ball was in the air, so has it occurred to anyone in the media that perhaps the players also heard this - hence the easy mark. There is a good chance that the defending Swans elected not to spoil because of the umpires repeated calls for play on.

[Thunder Shaker]

Something to consider:
We all agree that the umpires were calling play on as the ball was in the air, so has it occurred to anyone in the media that perhaps the players also heard this - hence the easy mark. There is a good chance that the defending Swans elected not to spoil because of the umpires repeated calls for play on.

This is a good point. It has obviously not occurred to the media that the "play on" call may have influenced the subsequent play. Nor has it occurred to the media that several other decisions and non-decisions throughout the game favoured Geelong.

The media's groupthink on these matters is quite extraordinary.

[ugg]

Interesting theory but you can clearly see the Swans players who challenged Cameron for the mark were as clueless about the call as Cameron. Mills looked crestfallen as he rose from the turf whereas Papley visibly reacted and tried to tackled Cameron only once he heard the umpire call play on

[Thunder Shaker]

I totally agree. I think coaches should be given two DRS referrals a half. The coaches can call for a decision review after the play has stopped. Win or lose the decision they lose a DRS.

They don’t get the DRS reviewed until the play is over:

- point scored
- ball out of bounds
- ball up

This will stop coaches using DRS to hold up fast breaks.

I think it will give the coaches more impact. A good coach will be one that has a review remaining to have a look at the Cameron decision. A good coach will review a free kick against, push in back or holding the ball decision when the outcome of the decision is crucial.

It will give the crowd more excitement and help those upset people who always feel hard done by the umpires.

Well done Leigh Montagna.

AFL news 2021, Jeremy Cameron, Geelong vs Sydney, Captain’s challenge, mark, umpiring decision, First Crack

This is a bad idea. Australian football is much more free-flowing than the various sports where such a system exists. Cricket is played ball by ball. American football is structured around plays that have breaks in between.

To see why it is a bad idea, consider that the clock is running. What happens if a DRS overturns a decision? Does the time get restored? What if the siren sounded in the meantime? How would they unsound the siren? What if it's the end of a Grand Final and the DRS decision is dubious?

[i'm-uninformed2]

And what if the ball bounces around for three or four minutes before there is a break in play. We regularly see it fling between the arcs. Are we going to rewind and replay the whole section. Talk about adding time to the game.

[stevoswan]

Something to consider:
We all agree that the umpires were calling play on as the ball was in the air, so has it occurred to anyone in the media that perhaps the players also heard this - hence the easy mark. There is a good chance that the defending Swans elected not to spoil because of the umpires repeated calls for play on.

I believe none of the players had a clue of the umpires call....the crowd was just too loud. You can tell that by Papley's reaction when he finally heard an umpire call play on, he suddenly tries to tackle Cameron over the line after two Swans actually had attempted to spoil Cameron marking and failed. All the players were clueless up until Paps tackle.

[stevoswan]

I totally agree. I think coaches should be given two DRS referrals a half. The coaches can call for a decision review after the play has stopped. Win or lose the decision they lose a DRS.

They don’t get the DRS reviewed until the play is over:

- point scored
- ball out of bounds
- ball up

This will stop coaches using DRS to hold up fast breaks.

I think it will give the coaches more impact. A good coach will be one that has a review remaining to have a look at the Cameron decision. A good coach will review a free kick against, push in back or holding the ball decision when the outcome of the decision is crucial.

It will give the crowd more excitement and help those upset people who always feel hard done by the umpires.

Well done Leigh Montagna.

AFL news 2021, Jeremy Cameron, Geelong vs Sydney, Captain’s challenge, mark, umpiring decision, First Crack

If you can actually trust the AFL to set up a reliable DRS after seeing how they regularly stuff up goal reviews then you must one of those people who open up suspicious emails that look 'too good to be true' thinking you're getting something for free. Do not be so trusting.....this is the AFL we are talking about. Not known for their competence.....or trustworthiness.