Match Thread. Swans v Geelong.

[Blood Fever]

Offsiders used to be a staple for me, but I tend to miss it now unless Caroline Wilson is on. I generally find the analysis shallow and the takes piping.

All analysis, including the ABC, is now shallow and agenda driven as it competes with the blight of social media.

[Thunder Shaker]

Geelong lost the game because they couldn't hit the goals. Poor kicking is poor football. Umpiring had less to do with the result than Geelong's inability to kick straight.

[Blood Fever]

Geelong lost the game because they couldn't hit the goals. Poor kicking is poor football. Umpiring had less to do with the result than Geelong's inability to kick straight.

True. Watching, I was waiting for them to finish us off with the weight of ball they had but it didn't happen. Doesn't detract from effort we put in after quarter time.

[MattW]

All analysis, including the ABC, is now shallow and agenda driven as it competes with the blight of social media.

I think individual journalists can rise above that, but few do.

The only AFL analysis I consume is the The Age podcast and On The Coach, but they're both flawed and neither close to some NBA podcasts, which I listen to for the depth of analysis even though I don't watch most games.

[mcs]

My personal view is that many Swans supporters are becoming too AFL focused and are fostering this mentality that the Victorian AFL clubs and the AFL are against them. The AFL gave the Swans Ron Barassi and a chance to keep operating in the early 90s when crowds were empty, sponsorship was low and the team was losing 20 games in a row.

In the words of John Rambo or Frozen

“Let it go”. “Let it go”

Now back to the football. Brilliant that the Swans hung in there. Geelong were moving the ball better and had the stronger bodies.

I was watching a match up in the Cats backline where it was Gulden v Tom Stewart and McLean V Henderson. Steward and Henderson are very strong and hardened AFL footballers. I thought our guys would struggle to win a one on one. Suddenly McLean starts taking pack marks and beating Henderson one on one.

In football, if you keep competing with intensity then you are a chance.

A simpleton view of what happened 30 years ago to say the least..... go and read some well researched history of what happened back then before you start trying to use that to suggest some idea of an 'us' vs 'them' attitude.

[Aprilbr]

Sorry to rain on the parade, gang. This just in:

AFL umpires boss Dan Richardson has conceded Jeremy Cameron should have been given the chance to take a dramatic shot to win Saturday night’s contest against Sydney.

But the AFL has backed in the decision not to penalise James Rowbottom for holding the ball as Joel Selwood tackled the Sydney onballer as the final siren sounded.
Richardson admitted that Cameron’s non-mark should have been paid, with the decision to call it play on incorrect.

[Blood Fever]

A simpleton view of what happened 30 years ago to say the least..... go and read some proper history of what happened back then before you start trying to use that to suggest some idea of an 'us' vs 'them' attitude.

Agree. Very simplistic and pompous.

[Blood Relative]

I'm liking McLean's attitude. He wants to play seniors and is starting to believe he belongs there. He and Sinclair were a reasonable combination up forward. Sinclair's clean hands below his knees, in traffic, to Papley were very good for a big fella.

[Blood Fever]

I think individual journalists can rise above that, but few do.

The only AFL analysis I consume is the The Age podcast and On The Coach, but they're both flawed and neither close to some NBA podcasts, which I listen to for the depth of analysis even though I don't watch most games.

Some US mainstream sport shows, like Pardon the Interruption, put our AFL shows to shame. They have some ordinary ones as well, but you can find a lot of interesting, intelligent and balanced stuff as well.

[mcs]

Sorry to rain on the parade, gang. This just in:

AFL umpires boss Dan Richardson has conceded Jeremy Cameron should have been given the chance to take a dramatic shot to win Saturday night’s contest against Sydney.

But the AFL has backed in the decision not to penalise James Rowbottom for holding the ball as Joel Selwood tackled the Sydney onballer as the final siren sounded.
Richardson admitted that Cameron’s non-mark should have been paid, with the decision to call it play on incorrect.

I really hate this trend of 'sorry we got that wrong' being said about one isolated decision.

If they want to create accountability in that way, sure. But it should be done that the same process is done for an entire match, not one isolated incident. All we will hear now is how they were 'robbed' blah blah blah, which overlooks the multitude of dreadful other calls in the game (the Selwood 'demand a free' in the 4th quarter', the absymal call against Lloyd that directly led to a goal, plus a few others - and that's before the 3,501 holding the ball/incorrect disposal calls that should been made.

Either do it properly and transperantly or don't do this nonsense at all.

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I'm liking McLean's attitude. He wants to play seniors and is starting to believe he belongs there. He and Sinclair were a reasonable combination up forward. Sinclair's clean hands below his knees, in traffic, to Papley were very good for a big fella.

He will never be a world beater, but he tries hard and most importantly competes hard. Will carve out a decent AFL career in time I feel, even if for chunks of it, it is as a depth player.

[Blood Fever]

I'm liking McLean's attitude. He wants to play seniors and is starting to believe he belongs there. He and Sinclair were a reasonable combination up forward. Sinclair's clean hands below his knees, in traffic, to Papley were very good for a big fella.

Thought Sinclair was ordinary until last quarter but his assists to Florent and Papley were crucial.

[dimelb]

Sorry to rain on the parade, gang. This just in:

AFL umpires boss Dan Richardson has conceded Jeremy Cameron should have been given the chance to take a dramatic shot to win Saturday night’s contest against Sydney.

I hope the umpires boss watches the match highlights. You can clearly hear "Play on" as Cameron closes on the ball.

[Blood Fever]

Great effort by the boys and has to be one of our best wins. I admit I was disgusted by our first quarter effort and was ready to turn off the TV and read a book. Fantastic effort and I ask you, is T Hickey the recruit of the year?? The only down side was the poor form of Isaac Heeney. Maybe best to give him a rest with his broken hand. He gave us nothing last night.

Agree about Heeney. Looks to have little confidence in his hand. Dropped a sitter very late which would have iced the game. Copped a very heavy knock though.

[Mel_C]

I have watched/listened to the non mark a million times and like others I can hear the umpire say "touched play on", however just before Cameron marks it I can also hear the umpire say "Not 15 play on not 15". So I'm really confused. And when Nicholls speaks to Cameron he doesn't do the "touched" signal.

[mcs]

I have watched/listened to the non mark a million times and like others I can hear the umpire say "touched play on", however just before Cameron marks it I can also hear the umpire say "Not 15 play on not 15". So I'm really confused. And when Nicholls speaks to Cameron he doesn't do the "touched" signal.

The umpires spent large amounts of last night confused given some of their horrendous calls, so doesn't suprise me they were confused at that point. I thought the umpiring was putrid all night - was nice we got a rub of the green it seems when it mattered, because geelong had several laughable decisions across the night go their way.