Changes for Round 23 v Gold Coast Suns

[Roadrunner]

Ok i am calm

I am asking nicely , dont bite my head off

Surely it is common sense that Chad is the better player . I am assuming it is common sense , swans fans are smart people and that relates to RWO as well . So ok he might not be fit enough . Neither is RB though apparently . Everyone mentioned he was on the bench most of 2nd half last week so ok they are both unfit . Why wouldnt you play the better player then ? At least give us every chance possible to win , even if its with a young fella who needs to be managed ?? Doesnt make any sense to me , but again im asking nicely not trying to start anything

Fair enough TB- I won’t bite your head off! As I said before, Chad is a very talented young player, but the MC have decided not to include him in the 22 for this match. That’s it. Maybe it’s due to match-ups: no reflection on abilities at all. For example, Reid has been left out, though he has more ability than Pelican and could play in his role as a key defender- yet they chose to go with the latter.

Chad will get plenty of chances- don’t worry!

[Roadrunner]

This is comical. I’ve never referred to Rowbottom in the above way.

It’s a bit of healthy debate.

The forum is also debating Melican v Fox and everyone is cool with that.

Chad v Rowbottom is another healthy debate in a Swans fan forum.

Bangalore, it’s not Chad v Rowbottom- they are not mutually exclusive as when both fully fit, they are both in the team.

That was the point I was trying to make, in my clumsy way in my sarcastic post previously- no need for you and TB to be riding this ad nauseum!

Chad will be back and we all hope he will go from strength to strength. Rowie was very good in the first half against Norf, we all agree, and yes, he faded a bit in the second half, as a lot of his mates, but he spent most of it warming the bench.

Melican v Fox: depends on opposition personnel, as often said by Horse generally speaking.

[TheBloods]

Ok well my wife used to have a saying , "if you hear something too many times , dont ignore it, question it"

i have heard from enough people who dont see the gulf between Chad and RB that i do , to question whether it is as obvious as i think it is . Needless to say i think it is there , and if we play RB in a final over Chad i think that would be a huge mistake , one has the potential to break a game open , the other does not , and that might be the difference if it is a close tight final .But no one opinion is better than the rest , i guess we will all see , end of the day dont care who is in the 22 as long as we win but obviously think there are certain individuals more likely to help us win than others .

[Bangalore Swans]

Maybe there will be a late change and Chad will be in.

I think that occurrence will delight most on here.

[Faunac8]

Maybe there will be a late change and Chad will be in.

I think that occurrence will delight some on here.

I fixed that for you and just to be clear I rate Chad and would be happy to see him selected if he is ready.
Your assumption that it would deliver delight to all and sundry is what you want to believe.

[Roadrunner]

Ok well my wife used to have a saying , "if you hear something too many times , dont ignore it, question it"

i have heard from enough people who dont see the gulf between Chad and RB that i do , to question whether it is as obvious as i think it is . Needless to say i think it is there , and if we play RB in a final over Chad i think that would be a huge mistake , one has the potential to break a game open , the other does not , and that might be the difference if it is a close tight final .But no one opinion is better than the rest , i guess we will all see , end of the day dont care who is in the 22 as long as we win but obviously think there are certain individuals more likely to help us win than others .

It always pays to listen to your wife TB!

Your above comments are fair enough- let’s just win the games ahead! We will need ALL our players contributing to the best of their ability.

Go Swannies!!

[joeykanga]

I fixed that for you and just to be clear I rate Chad and would be happy to see him selected if he is ready.
Your assumption that it would deliver delight to all and sundry is what you want to believe.

I let you do the responding to Bangalore ..you do such a good job on behalf of some of us who are too tired to reply to him with the sane points..
Nevertheless I will reply :
Bangalore it’s the team, the context and timing which has led to Chad not currently being in ..it’s just a timing thing based on a different momentum for different players and it’s about the synchronicity of the team

I’ve got no doubt he’s one of the players I’d love to see in there before others but the coaching staff really must know better …

[Captain]

Captain, no. The Pelican is needed for height and Robbie can’t counter tall, powerful forwards. He is good on the smaller guys but we have them covered with Harry and Lloyd, who do it better. Hard to find a spot for him in defence when everyone is fit.

But we have Rampe and McCartin to take the two big power forwards.

What team has a 3rd tall that Fox couldn’t handle??

Fox is the perfect medium defender. Perfect for a Fritsch type player. Harry takes the small and Lloyd runs off.

What does Melican bring? He is slow and unskillful. He is also doing a job that Rampe and McCartin do.

[Roadrunner]

Hear you Captain.

Trouble is that Ramps is not tall enough for some of the really big guys like McKay. It is unrealistic to expect him to play on these guys week in, week out. So we only have McCartin.

The Pelican has played well in the past. Trouble is he’s too injury prone. But we can’t play Robbie on a really big forward: remember our game against the Weagles- he was on Darling in the first quarter who took him to the cleaners. His fine on a medium sized forward when on equal terms, but that’s about it.

[Faunac8]

Simply because I wanted to ensure that I haven’t indiscriminately pushed back against the campaigning of TB and BS re Chad vs Rowbottom I visited Bigfooty. Not something that I usually do but quite an interesting exercise.
There are many posts discussing Fox v Melican v O’Riordan and McLean v Reid but I couldn’t find one where there was a direct comparison of Chad and James. There were a few posts earlier in the week suggesting Chad was due for selection and since the team was named a few thinking like BS that he may be either a late selection or be selected as the medical sub.
There were replies outlining similar thoughts to that posted by many on here regarding suspect match fitness different playing styles and team balance etc which seemed to be discussed but not dismissed. Posts where it was decreed that it was just common sense to agree with the poster were also absent.
This just confirmed my feeling that what we are seeing here on RWO is a concerted and illogical campaign where unless a response is in general agreement it is ignored or belittled.

[Ludwig]

No person in society has the right to question any decision if the decision is made by experts.

Sometimes something emerges from the cauldron of confusion that is so profound that it deserves both acclaim and accreditation. This is such a time.

I have taken the liberty to call this one The Bangalore Doctrine.

It can be applied to resolve nearly every dispute. For example, let's apply The Bangalore Doctrine to resolve a current dispute:

Some expert has decided that Rowbottom is a better fit in the current side than Warner, hence, no one has the right to question the decision.

QED

[Aprilbr]

Sometimes something emerges from the cauldron of confusion that is so profound that it deserves both acclaim and accreditation. This is such a time.

I have taken the liberty to call this one The Bangalore Doctrine.

It can be applied to resolve nearly every dispute. For example, let's apply The Bangalore Doctrine to resolve a current dispute:

Some expert has decided that Rowbottom is a better fit in the current side than Warner, hence, no one has the right to question the decision.

QED

We now live in a post-truth era, Ludwig, so with that in mind it makes perfect sense.

[i'm-uninformed2]

Ok i am calm

I am asking nicely , dont bite my head off

Surely it is common sense that Chad is the better player . I am assuming it is common sense , swans fans are smart people and that relates to RWO as well . So ok he might not be fit enough . Neither is RB though apparently . Everyone mentioned he was on the bench most of 2nd half last week so ok they are both unfit . Why wouldnt you play the better player then ? At least give us every chance possible to win , even if its with a young fella who needs to be managed ?? Doesnt make any sense to me , but again im asking nicely not trying to start anything

Too cute.

It’s not that you think Chad is great. We do too and hope he’s got a brilliant career ahead of him.

It’s not that you think Chad is a better player. He may well be, and has a lot of massive attributes.

It’s that you come on here and go James is the worst player ever, someone needs to do something about him, he’s not right in the head, can’t tie his shoelaces, can’t spell his own name.

[joeykanga]

Sometimes something emerges from the cauldron of confusion that is so profound that it deserves both acclaim and accreditation. This is such a time.

I have taken the liberty to call this one The Bangalore Doctrine.

It can be applied to resolve nearly every dispute. For example, let's apply The Bangalore Doctrine to resolve a current dispute:

Some expert has decided that Rowbottom is a better fit in the current side than Warner, hence, no one has the right to question the decision.

QED

That’s sublime !

[MattW]

There's a thread devoted to this Rowbottom wormhole. We need some sort of algorithm to automatically condemn posts to it.