Swans v Giants Elimination Final 2021

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  • stevoswan
    Veterans List
    • Sep 2014
    • 8559

    Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
    Thanks I’m out.

    Have a good offseason everyone.

    I can see that most people want me out of the community.

    I’ll take a hike.
    Just take a long hard look at yourself....that's all. You're always welcome....and we'll be here to agree or not. That's life....

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    • Ludwig
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 9359

      Originally posted by 09183305

      It starts with forgiving poor written expression on a forum and before you know it society degenerates into expressive idiocy
      Are you suggesting that RWO might be a leading indicator of societal change?

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      • stevoswan
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2014
        • 8559

        Originally posted by barry
        It's so easy to get caught up in the Toby hysteria. Slowmo camera shows he didn't even touch Stevic. Stevic pulled his shoulder back to get out of the way of Toby.

        https://mobile.twitter.com/BrentonSp...EqQ7TPvfa9AmfM
        Actually Barry....you are wrong.

        Toby Greene second angle - YouTube

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        • 0918330512
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2011
          • 1654

          Originally posted by Ludwig
          Are you suggesting that RWO might be a leading indicator of societal change?
          Ludwig, it has to start somewhere

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          • 0918330512
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2011
            • 1654

            A friend asked me last night, if Toby Green crossed to the Swans, would my views change. I was reminded of Barry Hall and Tony Lockett. Maybe was my answer.

            Then I saw this …

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            • greeng
              Pushing for Selection
              • Mar 2021
              • 84

              Originally posted by Nico
              Easy in hindsight but Reid would have been a better option than McLean. Why? Experience.
              Well next year you can watch him playing for the Bulli Bull ants. It's win/win!

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              • barry
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 8499

                Originally posted by stevoswan
                Again I ask 'so it's up to the umpire to move out of an approaching players way?' No it isn't....he still should be suspended. If he isn't, players will have a precedent set that they can beeline for an umpire in a threatening manner and walk right through them....if the umpire doesn't move first. Umpires, whether it's Stevic or not, are SACROSANCT....you cannot touch them or threaten them in any way.
                God I hate that word "sacrosanct". How have we allowed that to become part of the footy vocabulary?
                Its pretentious and I bet half the footy commentators don't even know what it means.

                The best thing now is to leave it to the tribunal. ... Trouble is the MRO and tribunal is so compromised and amateur, justice is unlikely to be served.

                It will all come down to stevic I think.

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                • Mark26
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2017
                  • 1535

                  Originally posted by Roadrunner
                  Guys, emotions are still too high to allow viewing of the replay, but from memory here’s my take on the missed shots:

                  Wilbur: difficult but with his experience should have goaled.
                  Wicks: gettable, should have steadied. History of missing these.
                  Tom: not easy but gettable.
                  Bell: 1st shot: gettable, not too difficult and a very poor kick.
                  2nd shot: unbelievable miss and unforgivable
                  Buddy: gettable for him- very poor with a couple of minutes to go- should have kicked it with his experience.

                  Got that off my chest, so I thought I would assess our team and others who played over a pretty good season:

                  Harry: good
                  Melican: average at best
                  Ramps: good
                  JMac: good
                  McCartin: good
                  Lloyd: average plus
                  Dawson: very good- excellent
                  Joey: good
                  Ollie: average
                  Paps: very good
                  Buddy: very good- excellent
                  Wilbur: good
                  Errol: very good
                  Sammy: good
                  Mc Lean: average plus, limited games.
                  Fox: average
                  Hickey: excellent
                  Mills: excellent
                  Parks: excellent
                  George: very good
                  Heeney: very good- excellent
                  Blakey: very good once moved to HB
                  Campbell: limited games, average
                  Amartey: as above
                  Logan: as above
                  Stephens: as above, below average.
                  COR: as above, average
                  Bell: poor
                  Wicks: below average
                  Chad: missed a lot of games, but good.
                  What, no Rowbottom? Don't tell me The Bloods has already traded him out!

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                  • Bill Posters
                    Warming the Bench
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 259

                    My thoughts: God knows why they decided to take a risky approach to selection for an elim final. COR instead of Fox. Bell instead of... well, anyone really, when he's been given umpteen chances this season and played only 1 good game. Did they really think that this was the game where he was going to discover his genius? And finally - McLean over Reid? Sure, Reid didn't shine in the last game he played, but neither did McLean really, and Reid is experienced and a proven finals performer. So why did they take the risky approach?? This game was lost at the selection table.

                    Greene should get suspended. Whoever put that ultra slow-mo video on Youtube clearly has an agenda. Because if you watch it at full speed you can clearly see that the umpire bounces back too fast to have initiated the movement himself. As that other angle clearly shows. They can't let him get away with that or it's setting a precedent.

                    Finally: gutted we lost this one. If we'd got through this game I truly think we could have had a crack at the premiership. But next year is looking promising!

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                    • MattW
                      Veterans List
                      • May 2011
                      • 4218

                      Originally posted by barry
                      God I hate that word "sacrosanct". How have we allowed that to become part of the footy vocabulary?
                      Its pretentious and I bet half the footy commentators don't even know what it means.

                      The best thing now is to leave it to the tribunal. ... Trouble is the MRO and tribunal is so compromised and amateur, justice is unlikely to be served.

                      It will all come down to stevic I think.
                      Yes, straight to the tribunal.

                      THE VERDICT IS IN: Toby Greene learns fate for ump bump

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                      • stevoswan
                        Veterans List
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 8559

                        Originally posted by barry
                        God I hate that word "sacrosanct". How have we allowed that to become part of the footy vocabulary?
                        Its pretentious and I bet half the footy commentators don't even know what it means.

                        The best thing now is to leave it to the tribunal. ... Trouble is the MRO and tribunal is so compromised and amateur, justice is unlikely to be served.

                        It will all come down to stevic I think.
                        Sacrosanct? Where umpires are concerned, it has always been part of footy vocabulary.....for those of us who grew up playing footy in a footy state anyway. Stop defending the grub....and yes, the tribunal will decide....so you'll probably end up happy.

                        - - - Updated - - -

                        Originally posted by MattW
                        Well, we'll now see if the tribunal has some balls....

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                        • Ludwig
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9359

                          Originally posted by barry
                          God I hate that word "sacrosanct". .
                          What are your feelings about sacroiliac?

                          Maybe stevo can edit his comment to read

                          Umpires, whether it's Stevic or not, are SACROILIAC....you cannot touch them in the lower back in any way.

                          if it makes you feel better.

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                          • dejavoodoo44
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 8637

                            Originally posted by Ludwig
                            What are your feelings about sacroiliac?

                            Maybe stevo can edit his comment to read

                            Umpires, whether it's Stevic or not, are SACROILIAC....you cannot touch them in the lower back in any way.

                            if it makes you feel better.
                            Sacroiliac. Originally I was wondering if that was similar to necrophiliac? But no, I then remembered my anatomy lessons.

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              Originally posted by Ludwig
                              What are your feelings about sacroiliac?

                              Maybe stevo can edit his comment to read

                              Umpires, whether it's Stevic or not, are SACROILIAC....you cannot touch them in the lower back in any way.

                              if it makes you feel better.
                              I'm pretty indifferent to any word that starts with "sacro".

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                              • Markwebbos
                                Veterans List
                                • Jul 2016
                                • 7186

                                Originally posted by stevoswan
                                Actually Barry....you are wrong.

                                Toby Greene second angle - YouTube
                                That’s 2021’s Zapruder film.

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