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  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
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    • Jan 2003
    • 15970

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    • i'm-uninformed2
      Reefer Madness
      • Oct 2003
      • 4653

      Originally posted by ugg
      Gotta admit, happy to be proven wrong, but I don’t get this.

      He’s not a tall KPD as he’s 193cm in an era of giants and we’ve got Pat Mc as an interceptor. If he’s a third KPD, he’s an average on based on a seven (?) year career, and where does that leave Gould. He’s not a KPF, as he’s been tried there and is crap. He doesn’t have the tank to be a tall marking winger a la The Rat.

      If we pay bugger all on the trade and the salary, maybe it’s worth a chance, but even then, to be convinced.
      'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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      • ugg
        Can you feel it?
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 15970

        Assume at worst he will be Melican’s replacement in the VFL team next year. But he may also be a Rampe replacement in a few years time.
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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          Francis looks to be a Lewis Taylor replacement. The Swans do need players saved up for future delistings.

          You have to think that whatever has been wrong with him for these past 7 years, the Swans can fix it, or are they just being delusional.

          I can see a swap for Ronke, as Essendon could use a small forward and we've got lots of them.

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          • Blood Fever
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 4050

            Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
            Gotta admit, happy to be proven wrong, but I don’t get this.

            He’s not a tall KPD as he’s 193cm in an era of giants and we’ve got Pat Mc as an interceptor. If he’s a third KPD, he’s an average on based on a seven (?) year career, and where does that leave Gould. He’s not a KPF, as he’s been tried there and is crap. He doesn’t have the tank to be a tall marking winger a la The Rat.

            If we pay bugger all on the trade and the salary, maybe it’s worth a chance, but even then, to be convinced.
            Shades of Ted Richards? Similar size.

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            • 707
              Veterans List
              • Aug 2009
              • 6204

              Originally posted by Ludwig
              Francis looks to be a Lewis Taylor replacement. The Swans do need players saved up for future delistings.

              You have to think that whatever has been wrong with him for these past 7 years, the Swans can fix it, or are they just being delusional.

              I can see a swap for Ronke, as Essendon could use a small forward and we've got lots of them.
              Dealing with Dodoro - yuk!

              Francis has a lot of talent, just goes at half rat power in the red sash. Fingers crossed he finds motivation with us.

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              • Auntie.Gerald
                Veterans List
                • Oct 2009
                • 6480

                If true Aaron Francis makes a lot of sense for us to improve our defensive depth and or be able to reposition one of our defenders into a role where they can be unleashed.

                No doubt it could be a Thurlow, Taylor and or Menzel type signing but equally it could be a Ted Richards and or Paddy Mc type success story for us.

                Aaron is very strong in the air which is helpful at either end of the field.
                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                • rb4x
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 968

                  Aaron Francis. No No No

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                  • i'm-uninformed2
                    Reefer Madness
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 4653

                    Originally posted by Blood Fever
                    Shades of Ted Richards? Similar size.
                    I love Ted, but a different era of tall forwards, and he’s shown half the application and desperation as Ted.
                    'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                    • Blood Fever
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4050

                      Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                      I love Ted, but a different era of tall forwards, and he’s shown half the application and desperation as Ted.
                      Ted took a while to knuckle down. After he did, he was a gun.

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                      • mcs
                        Travelling Swannie!!
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 8166

                        Originally posted by liz
                        2021?

                        I'd happily hand over either of our first round picks for Thomas. He's still only 22 and, based on our drafting over the last decade or so, the likelihood of us using a teens picks to find a player whose ceiling is as high as Thomas's is pretty darned low.
                        100% agree Liz re: Thomas. Would be a great addition to our midfield.

                        On the point of Aaron Francis - he is just a hail mary choice, low probability of success, but low cost and big payoff if he was to come right. Will cost us bugger all, so worth taking the chance on him. Amazing how many players come good when moving from a pretty toxic culture to a new environment - maybe he might be another one.
                        "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                        • Markwebbos
                          Veterans List
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          I’m a bit mystified by Francis given he’s provided 7 years of consistent underperformance.

                          Really hope they have seen something no one here has?

                          We gave up picks 19 and 50 for Teddy. I reckon we’ll give up a 3rd rounder for Francis.

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                          • Auntie.Gerald
                            Veterans List
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 6480

                            Aaron Francis' 2018 Breakout | Extended Highlights - YouTube

                            very talented on his non preferred foot along with being a very good mark..........could the Swans be the environment to find that mindset to compliment his evident skills
                            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                            • Markwebbos
                              Veterans List
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 7186

                              Yes to Tarryn Thomas

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                              • H2F
                                Warming the Bench
                                • Sep 2021
                                • 159

                                We inquired about TT but baulked at his asking price 700k according to Trade Radio

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