2022 List management, trading, drafting

[707]

Sheather and BOC were our Cat B rookies. I was aware the AFL had given some upgrade exemptions, though thought this was mostly for International players. It might be harder to argue COVID development hardship for an ex-academy player. But I agree there is a possibility that the club could turn a Cat B available spot into a Cat A available spot. It would mean Sheather can't play senior football until we have someone on the LTIL.

Reckon those without contracts will need to wait and see if we have list spots

[Ludwig]

Sheather and BOC were our Cat B rookies. I was aware the AFL had given some upgrade exemptions, though thought this was mostly for International players. It might be harder to argue COVID development hardship for an ex-academy player. But I agree there is a possibility that the club could turn a Cat B available spot into a Cat A available spot. It would mean Sheather can't play senior football until we have someone on the LTIL.

Maybe we can add Webster as a Cat B rookie if we want to keep the list size at 44, or perhaps we just cut our list size by one or two. I can't see how we can keep Naismith and Bell under the circumstances and maybe Ronke as well, unless Melican can find another club. Our list might be devoid of list cloggers by the end of the year, then what are we going to talk about?

[Nico]

Maybe we can add Webster as a Cat B rookie if we want to keep the list size at 44, or perhaps we just cut our list size by one or two. I can't see how we can keep Naismith and Bell under the circumstances and maybe Ronke as well, unless Melican can find another club. Our list might be devoid of list cloggers by the end of the year, then what are we going to talk about?

Confused? So where does this leave the Francis trade given we have 3 picks in the draft. Something has to give.

[liz]

Maybe we can add Webster as a Cat B rookie if we want to keep the list size at 44, or perhaps we just cut our list size by one or two. I can't see how we can keep Naismith and Bell under the circumstances and maybe Ronke as well, unless Melican can find another club. Our list might be devoid of list cloggers by the end of the year, then what are we going to talk about?

I think it's highly likely that we add one Cat B rookie. Webster would be my choice but they may also think about Edwards or Anderson. My point was that, unless an exemption is applied for and received for Sheather, there are limited choices for filling available list spots if we want to retain the same total list size.

I am working under the assumption that Melican can be found a new home if we bring in Francis. Otherwise my "one available senior spot" decreases to "no available senior spots" before any other changes are made to the list.

[liz]

Confused? So where does this leave the Francis trade given we have 3 picks in the draft. Something has to give.

We have as many picks in the ND as we need to fill the list, but subject to a minimum of two. There is a normal minimum of three picks in the ND but a rookie elevation can count for one of those (but not more).

I think it's clear that something will give. We're not going to have all (or possible any) of Bell, Ronke and Naismith on the list by the end of the list lodgement process. Unless another unexpected trade out pops up from somewhere, or Cunningham accepts an offer elsewhere. And even then, some of the band of three are likely to be moved out.

[i'm-uninformed2]

Please no. NO.



Please no. NO.

Ok, that’s that then.

I do agree on Crouch. He’s slow, can’t kick and can’t defend because he can’t cover the ground. The antithesis of where the game is heading. Even his contested v uncontested numbers are highly unflattering for a supposed inside bull. He seems to live on receipt of short handballs, before giving off another.

As for Mathieson, I doubt it. I get the temptation but you’d only get him as an inside bull, and he’s not ‘that’ much of one. And he’s actually poor defensively, which is why he doesn’t crack a regular game.

[Ludwig]

We're not in a bind, just a bit tight on list spots. Even as it stands now, we can still take our 2 first rounders, trade our 2nd rounder for a future 2nd, add Francis and do the rookie shuffle. Things will loosen up as we get through the trade period and a bit more space is sure to open up.

[liz]

I just did a recount because I was short a rookie on this year's list in my mental calculations. I've just realised that was Paddy McCartin. So, assuming I am right about the need to upgrade Wicks and McLean (which I may not be as the rules tend to change), that's one fewer senior spot we have available and one more rookie spot.

That's working on what someone on here reported (sorry, can't remember who) that Paddy has been promised a promotion.

[707]

List intrigue :-)

[rb4x]

I just did a recount because I was short a rookie on this year's list in my mental calculations. I've just realised that was Paddy McCartin. So, assuming I am right about the need to upgrade Wicks and McLean (which I may not be as the rules tend to change), that's one fewer senior spot we have available and one more rookie spot.

That's working on what someone on here reported (sorry, can't remember who) that Paddy has been promised a promotion.

Hi Liz

That was me quoting an oracle on BF that tracks contracts. They had Paddy upgraded to senior list but not Fox. Needs to be updated for Clarke and Gould and I believe also Reid but dated as three days ago. E&OE.

Have checked the AFL article and it would appear that we could with permission relist Sheather as a Cat B rookie for another year but as yet it would we appear we have not applied to do so.

[caj23]

It's not really much of a dilemma.

Bell and Naismith are obvious cuts, and as much as I like Ronke and think he should be on our list, it wouldn't surprise if the coaching staff didn't see it my way

[rb4x]

Link to contract status on BF

List Mgmt. - AFL Senior List Contract Status | Page 84 | BigFooty Forum

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Link to contract status on BF

List Mgmt. - AFL Senior List Contract Status | Page 84 | BigFooty Forum

[Markwebbos]

If Soldo goes to the Giants they are going to have a LOT of ruckman in varying stages of development.

I wondered whether Briggs or Flynn would be worth pursuing rather than drafting someone?

[SCGonasunnyday]

It’s all a bit boring isn’t it? 3 gun kids in the draft seems the right approach for this year.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

If Soldo goes to the Giants they are going to have a LOT of ruckman in varying stages of development.

I wondered whether Briggs or Flynn would be worth pursuing rather than drafting someone?

I like the look of Flynn very much, can take a great grab, so he isn't a waste of space when resting up forward. Like many young rucks he's had his injurie issues.