AFL (non-Swans) off-season moves - 2022 edition

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  • Blood Fever
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 4044

    Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
    They were a major surprise when they were included in the VFL competition when it was formed in 1896.
    Their inclusion, rather than far more powerful alternatives, was to ensure none of the teams that was forming the new league would have a winless season. If memory serves, it took them more than two seasons before they won their first game.
    They were included to be the leagues designated losers - and you have to admire the way they have by and large stuck to this task. Such dedication to self destruction, it's inspirational.
    They still hold the records for lowest ever score, longest losing streaks, most wooden spoons and fewest flags - excluding three of the expansion clubs. Their only "blemish" in the latter was when they beat a collywobbles afflicted Magpies by a point.
    The Saints are the gift that just keeps on giving.
    Despite all of the above, their supporters are very loyal and resilient and probably the least obnoxious in the competition. Also, best not to forget that, as South Melbourne, we were very ordinary for a long period of time.

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    • Bloods05
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2008
      • 1641

      Originally posted by Blood Fever
      Despite all of the above, their supporters are very loyal and resilient and probably the least obnoxious in the competition. Also, best not to forget that, as South Melbourne, we were very ordinary for a long period of time.
      Hear, hear.

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      • KTigers
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2012
        • 2499

        Originally posted by Blood Fever
        Despite all of the above, their supporters are very loyal and resilient and probably the least obnoxious in the competition. Also, best not to forget that, as South Melbourne, we were very ordinary for a long period of time.
        I also think I'm with you here man. I know a bunch of Saints supporters and to a man (they are all blokes) they are cool
        characters and decent folk. They know where their club is at. Some of them remind me of some Brits I know thru work
        stuff that support the soccer clubs they do because its where they were born, even though they know their team has never
        won anything significant and never will. For them, it's about the journey, not the destination. As it is for me these days with
        our noble, upstanding team.

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        • Ruck'n'Roll
          Ego alta, ergo ictus
          • Nov 2003
          • 3990

          I made no comment on the worthiness of the Saints supporters whatsoever, my best friend is a Sainter, so I wasn't dissing their supporters.
          History is objective, it should be thought about and enjoyed for itself, no need to imbue it with extra meaning.
          But their inclusion was pretty bent, and our clubs' determination to keep Port Melbourne out of the VFL that provided a lot of the impetus for their surprise inclusion, and provided further fuel to the longstanding Port/South antagonism.

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          • Blood Fever
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 4044

            Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
            I made no comment on the worthiness of the Saints supporters whatsoever, my best friend is a Sainter, so I wasn't dissing their supporters.
            History is objective, it should be thought about and enjoyed for itself, no need to imbue it with extra meaning.
            But their inclusion was pretty bent, and our clubs' determination to keep Port Melbourne out of the VFL that provided a lot of the impetus for their surprise inclusion, and provided further fuel to the longstanding Port/South antagonism.
            Agree with you about the Port/South antagonism. Hindered South in that we never had all the best players from the local area. Port was very tribal for many years. Not sure about history being objective. Depends on who writes it. Now I'm getting on, some of the stuff that is written about that happened when I was young is way off the mark.

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            • Ruck'n'Roll
              Ego alta, ergo ictus
              • Nov 2003
              • 3990

              Fred Cook

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              • Blood Fever
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 4044

                Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                Fred Cook
                He played at Footscray and Yarraville before Port. Matured at Port.
                .

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                • Ruck'n'Roll
                  Ego alta, ergo ictus
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 3990

                  Became a full forward at Port. Previously he'd been a back pocket and ruck.
                  I'd have liked to see him come to us from Port rather than Vic Aanensen - I mean the Swede was pretty much a lamp post ruck, which wasn't even acceptable back then.
                  Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 20 October 2022, 10:06 PM.

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                  • wolftone57
                    Veterans List
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 5854

                    Originally posted by bloodspirit
                    From what I've heard, Harley may have been interested in the AFL CEO role but has not got it. However, what I can't help but wonder is whether he might go for the position recently vacated by Brad Scott: Head of Footy Operations (or whatever it's called).
                    Not enough money. He'd be in more at Swans

                    Sent from my JAT-L29 using Tapatalk

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                    • wolftone57
                      Veterans List
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 5854

                      Originally posted by KTigers
                      A $1.8M salary. Trust me, there will be a bunch of them running for it. All with their speeches about how "integrity" underpins
                      everything they do at the ready. It's not going to make one iota of difference whoever takes over the VAFL from McLachlan.
                      I am not even going to demean the name by calling the VFL, AFL. It is an expanded VFL with all the power in the hands of the Vic clubs

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                      • 707
                        Veterans List
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6204

                        St.Kilda - back to the future!

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                        • Captain
                          Captain of the Side
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 3602

                          Appointing Ross the Boss is a good move for the Saints. He is a good coach who is a bit old school. That's something the Saints need.

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                          • mcs
                            Travelling Swannie!!
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 8162

                            Originally posted by Captain
                            Appointing Ross the Boss is a good move for the Saints. He is a good coach who is a bit old school. That's something the Saints need.
                            Will be lucky to last 2 years imho. Their list is bog average and going back to Lyon won't fix that.

                            Might get a bit of second honeymoon bounce early on, but I can't see this ending well. Maybe Lyon will prove me wrong with some changes in his tactical approach, but I just don't see it. Feels like a desperate appointment by a desperate club with nowhere to turn.
                            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                            • i'm-uninformed2
                              Reefer Madness
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 4653

                              Originally posted by mcs
                              Will be lucky to last 2 years imho. Their list is bog average and going back to Lyon won't fix that.

                              Might get a bit of second honeymoon bounce early on, but I can't see this ending well. Maybe Lyon will prove me wrong with some changes in his tactical approach, but I just don't see it. Feels like a desperate appointment by a desperate club with nowhere to turn.
                              Same. I thought they drafted well last year, but they need a few more years of that and hardening those players before they’re anywhere near a top four list. Still think the most remarkable thing about the Saints saga was the head of footy who oversaw a crappy drafting, recruitment and development plan for years got promoted to CEO then sacked the coach. Bizarro.
                              'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                              • 707
                                Veterans List
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 6204

                                Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                                Same. I thought they drafted well last year, but they need a few more years of that and hardening those players before they’re anywhere near a top four list. Still think the most remarkable thing about the Saints saga was the head of footy who oversaw a crappy drafting, recruitment and development plan for years got promoted to CEO then sacked the coach. Bizarro.
                                Thinking about that particular boys club CEO, at the Swans we are so lucky to have a stable club full of quality people.

                                Who would want to be a Saints, Norf or Essendon supporter right now given the utter shambles they have been, CEO's, football departments, coaches, recruiting, scandals!

                                Or a GWS or Gold Coast supporter knowing your initial start up concessions have now evaporated and you're destined to be just a feeder club for the Southern states and will always struggle to rise above that deadly mid table vortex despite almost every year having a good draft hand?

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