AFL (non-Swans) off-season moves - 2022 edition

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  • dimelb
    pr. dim-melb; m not f
    • Jun 2003
    • 6889

    Originally posted by Ludwig
    One solution to the go home factor is to allow a player that registers for the draft to declare that he is a Mummy's Boy. The AFL will set up a fund to facilitate the player's mother to visit frequently or even stay with their son if the kid is drafted to an interstate club. For example, the AFL will pay travel and living expenses for the mother. A player who does not make a Mummy's Boy declaration before the draft can never use the go home factor as a reason for switching clubs. An alternative would be a Mummy's Boy draft, just for these kids. They can go to the club they want, but paid the minimum wage until they grow up and can register for the regular draft as an adult.
    Brilliant suggestion!
    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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    • bloodspirit
      Clubman
      • Apr 2015
      • 4448

      Talk of Lachie Hunter moving from the Dogs to the Dees. Surprising. The Dees have a stacked midfield - he would have to compete for a spot. Plus, how can the Dees have their fingers in so many pies? It's a really different scenario trying to lure players to Sydney.
      All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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      • Blood Fever
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 4050

        Originally posted by Ludwig
        The AFL have given Gold Coast so many concessions over the years to keep them going. Most have been extra picks, which just end up at Melbourne clubs eventually.

        Why couldn't the AFL make one more concession this time which would allow Bowes to stay on GC's list, like a limited salary cap concession. Or have the AFL pay part of Bowes contract so GC could make a market value trade for him. That would make a lot more sense then just throwing them extra picks which doesn't solve anything.

        No club has been given the amount of access to top end players than GWS have, and look where they are after all of it..

        The solution lies in finding a way for all clubs, and particularly expansion clubs, to pay a fair market wage to players and have the ability to retain players on an equal basis.

        One solution to the go home factor is to allow a player that registers for the draft to declare that he is a Mummy's Boy. The AFL will set up a fund to facilitate the player's mother to visit frequently or even stay with their son if the kid is drafted to an interstate club. For example, the AFL will pay travel and living expenses for the mother. A player who does not make a Mummy's Boy declaration before the draft can never use the go home factor as a reason for switching clubs. An alternative would be a Mummy's Boy draft, just for these kids. They can go to the club they want, but paid the minimum wage until they grow up and can register for the regular draft as an adult.
        Second the motion! Do they still have suggestion boxes?

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        • i'm-uninformed2
          Reefer Madness
          • Oct 2003
          • 4653

          Originally posted by bloodspirit
          Talk of Lachie Hunter moving from the Dogs to the Dees. Surprising. The Dees have a stacked midfield - he would have to compete for a spot. Plus, how can the Dees have their fingers in so many pies? It's a really different scenario trying to lure players to Sydney.
          He's an elite winger and one of the few Dogs that run both ways. You'd grab him. I've always felt we should make Dylan Stephens watch his matches for what to emulate.
          'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16773

            Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
            He's an elite winger and one of the few Dogs that run both ways. You'd grab him. I've always felt we should make Dylan Stephens watch his matches for what to emulate.
            Maybe a few years back, but I think his last couple of seasons have been pretty ordinary. His kicking is a bit haphazard and he can be a bit of a stat gatherer at the expense of really having an impact. If Stephens needs a model (and I think that his two way running is probably where it needs to be already, or at least heading in the right direction), I reckon Ed Langdon is a better one.

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            • bloodspirit
              Clubman
              • Apr 2015
              • 4448

              The chickens have come home to roost for the Bulldogs. I was wondering how they could afford such a stellar midfield plus the likes of Naughton, JUH and Darcy. It turns out something had to give and they have to let Lachie Hunter go for peanuts. Who are the peanuts now? But how is it that the top teams (Melbourne, Richmond, Geelong) seem to have the cap space to add in yet another good player that another team can't afford??
              All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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              • Thunder Shaker
                Aut vincere aut mori
                • Apr 2004
                • 4200

                Every club gained new players from other clubs via trades or free agency.

                The only clubs that did not lose players to other clubs were Richmond and Sydney.
                "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                • Foreign Legion
                  Senior Player
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 3368

                  If I was a Hawthorn supporter I would be somewhat worried.

                  To lose Mitchell and O'Meara at the same time puts a big hole in their midfield. Dogs have lost a bit of midfield grunt too but they have greater depth than Hawthorn.

                  I'd be surprised if Hawthorn don't finish bottom 4.

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    Originally posted by Foreign Legion
                    If I was a Hawthorn supporter I would be somewhat worried.

                    To lose Mitchell and O'Meara at the same time puts a big hole in their midfield. Dogs have lost a bit of midfield grunt too but they have greater depth than Hawthorn.

                    I'd be surprised if Hawthorn don't finish bottom 4.
                    They're going for a total rebuild. They want to finish as low as possible.

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                    • barry
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8499

                      Did Brisbane win the trade period.? In dunkley, gungston, No.1 draft pick (Ashcroft via FS) and then another academy kid around pick 20.
                      All for losing McStay

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                      • Foreign Legion
                        Senior Player
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 3368

                        I hear you Ludwig but they only have picks 6, 24 and 41 of the early picks in the draft.

                        They would not want to stuff that up.

                        I forgot they lost Gunston too - admittedly a player with only a few years left, but Mitchell is gambling pretty hard I think.

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                        • Ludwig
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9359

                          Originally posted by Foreign Legion
                          I hear you Ludwig but they only have picks 6, 24 and 41 of the early picks in the draft.

                          They would not want to stuff that up.

                          I forgot they lost Gunston too - admittedly a player with only a few years left, but Mitchell is gambling pretty hard I think.
                          Hawks are creating cap space, which can go a long way if you take your chances. Look at some of the good player moves this year that went cheaply. They know they are years away from finals, so they might as well start cleaning out shop now.

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                          • 707
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6204

                            Originally posted by barry
                            Did Brisbane win the trade period.? In dunkley, gungston, No.1 draft pick (Ashcroft via FS) and then another academy kid around pick 20.
                            All for losing McStay
                            In the wash up Brisbane hold 7 picks totaling 2441 points.

                            If GWS do the right think and bid on the best player in the draft at pick one, that will burn 2400 points, that's the entire Brisbane draft hand. Jaspa Fletcher will probably need another 8-900 points, hmmmm

                            Brisbane also won't enter the touted 2023 draft until mid 30's.

                            Media and people generally only look at player moves but you also need to look at teams draft hands this year and next year, some teams are very light on for both of those.

                            The undisputed big winner this year is Geelong!

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                            • i'm-uninformed2
                              Reefer Madness
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 4653

                              Originally posted by 707
                              In the wash up Brisbane hold 7 picks totaling 2441 points.

                              If GWS do the right think and bid on the best player in the draft at pick one, that will burn 2400 points, that's the entire Brisbane draft hand. Jaspa Fletcher will probably need another 8-900 points, hmmmm

                              Brisbane also won't enter the touted 2023 draft until mid 30's.

                              Media and people generally only look at player moves but you also need to look at teams draft hands this year and next year, some teams are very light on for both of those.

                              The undisputed big winner this year is Geelong!
                              Geelong are definitely ahead - they've just replenished their midfield stocks in one go (including the pending pick 7).

                              I think Richmond have done ok, but with one big proviso - they'll need to start replenishing their tall stocks soon, and with Bolton coming up to free agency soon, they won't have the cap space to go get any externally and they've now got a limited draft hand.

                              The one I just don't get is Hawthorn. They've culled the list without bringing in quality, or a raft of draft picks. I get what Ludwig is saying re cap space, but cellar dwellars have shown themselves to struggle to recruit high quality FAs. At least West Coast has bolstered its draft hand for the next two years, which is appropriate for where they are at.

                              As for GWS, even old Kinnear has kicked them while they are down.

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                              'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                              • dejavoodoo44
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 8637

                                There's an article by Callum Twomey on the AFL site, about the trade period. In it, he has this observation when discussing the Bowes trade.

                                "That it was Geelong that could afford him was extraordinary given the club's premiership list, but nonetheless showed the value of the Cats' unique cap model."

                                I do wonder what he means by "unique cap model"? He doesn't elaborate, so hopefully someone will ask him to explain, on one of his media appearances.

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