2022 AFL National Draft and Rookie Draft 28 & 29 November 2022

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  • bloodspirit
    Clubman
    • Apr 2015
    • 4448

    I'm not optimistic that the players I'm most interested in will be there at our first pick (Busslinger, Allan, Jefferson).

    I'd be happy to take a player like Hewett or George with our second pick. I'd also be happy to take Barnett or Weddle.

    Basically I will completely back our recruiters in. Also happy to trade back or into the future for the right deal.

    For a second I wondered if it was too silly to imagine GWS offering to swap 1st round picks with us (i.e. picks 14 & 17 for 15, 18 & 19!) - then I decided they wouldn't be silly enough to do that.
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    • 707
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2009
      • 6204

      Snippets from Herald Sun audio with Simon Dalrymple

      Always draft best available, needs can be traded for, excess talent can be traded out. At end of draft (pick 42) select on needs.

      This draft drops off after first 10 or so, then it's an even draft through to around 30

      Looking strongly at about eight players that we expect to get through to our first picks, lots of good mids in our range

      Likely use 3 picks in ND, 1 or 2 in RD, keep 1 pick for mid season draft?, 1 Cat B pick - Edwards being considered who has had interrupted development

      Thumbs up to academy coaching appointments

      Named Sheldrick who had injuries during season to be the big improver

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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        Originally posted by Aprilbr
        Thanks for sharing the link, MW. Definitely informative for us to know the Swans' thinking although I am not sure why he is being so publicly frank? Trading down is an interesting strategy. I assume it means giving up something to acquire a pick in the 2023 draft, or going forward on one pick in 2022 and down on the other?
        I can see us trading down on draft night, depending on who's available at our pick, e.g. if we really wanted Allen at pick 14, but he's gone, then we trade out that pick and move down the order.

        If Keeler has dropped down the rankings to mid second round, we could trade down for a pick in the late 20s plus a future 2nd rounder. It could be any player; I just used Keeler as an example.

        It could be a very strategic draft, given the picks we have. You never know if a club will be keen to get a player they like at our pick and would be willing to give up a lot of draft capital to move into position to get their player.

        Also, I don't think just because we name a player that we are interested in that it will affect the drafting strategy for another club. Other clubs would be suspicious that it could be diversion tactic, just like we are.

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        • AB Swannie
          Senior Player
          • Mar 2017
          • 1579

          Originally posted by Aprilbr
          Thanks for sharing the link, MW. Definitely informative for us to know the Swans' thinking although I am not sure why he is being so publicly frank? Trading down is an interesting strategy. I assume it means giving up something to acquire a pick in the 2023 draft, or going forward on one pick in 2022 and down on the other?
          Dalrymple was asked direct questions about all of the players mentioned. Weddle and Barnett were picked by the host in their phantom draft and so Simon was asked about those choices. He wasn’t offering unsolicited info.

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          • Nico
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 11339

            Looks like there will be plenty of cat and mouse and ducks and drakes on draft nights. Very interesting.
            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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            • Markwebbos
              Veterans List
              • Jul 2016
              • 7186

              Originally posted by AB Swannie
              Dalrymple was asked direct questions about all of the players mentioned. Weddle and Barnett were picked by the host in their phantom draft and so Simon was asked about those choices. He wasn’t offering unsolicited info.
              I agree Dalrymple was asked about Weddle and Barnett but surprised when he then described them as being in a group of 6-8 we are seriously interested in.

              He described the draft as having an elite top ten and then the next 20 or so being very even, so I can see why we’d be open to trading down.

              I got the impression it’s too early to really judge the quality of the 2023 draft yet.

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              • Ludwig
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                Trading our picks 17 and 42 for Collingwood's 25 & 27 looks interesting for both parties, if we think pics 11-30 looks pretty even.

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                • Auntie.Gerald
                  Veterans List
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 6480

                  When I went back and listened to our 65yr old KB in Oct he said not much quality in the Ruck or KPs in this draft

                  Hmmmmm
                  "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                  • troyjones2525
                    Swans Fanatic!
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 2908

                    Originally posted by Ludwig
                    Trading our picks 17 and 42 for Collingwood's 25 & 27 looks interesting for both parties, if we think pics 11-30 looks pretty even.
                    I hate trading first round picks but I don't actually mind that.

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                    • Markwebbos
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7186

                      Originally posted by Ludwig
                      Trading our picks 17 and 42 for Collingwood's 25 & 27 looks interesting for both parties, if we think pics 11-30 looks pretty even.
                      I agree

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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                        When I went back and listened to our 65yr old KB in Oct he said not much quality in the Ruck or KPs in this draft

                        Hmmmmm
                        Give it 72 hrs

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                        • Auntie.Gerald
                          Veterans List
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6480

                          I must admit despite looking attractive the above scenario I personally would love to get my hands on talent at 14 to 17 and increase the probability of securing the players I desire most to join our squad

                          So close together and a genuine chance of cherry picking a need at pick 17 not just best talent [despite the line trotted out each season]
                          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                          • Auntie.Gerald
                            Veterans List
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 6480

                            14
                            25
                            27

                            Vs

                            14
                            17
                            42

                            Vs

                            14
                            17
                            35 (there might be a chance we can move 42 up to 35ish if the right circumstances arise) ie a few way trade of picks split then bundled into one again due to a team needing more points vs draft pick

                            So many combos to play with but 14, 17, 35ish would be my preference if attainable
                            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                            • Auntie.Gerald
                              Veterans List
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6480

                              Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' November ranking - Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' November ranking

                              Lot of talent between 12 and 22ish
                              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                              • Markwebbos
                                Veterans List
                                • Jul 2016
                                • 7186

                                Foxsports also has us taking Weddle and Barnett, but with a huge caveat

                                “Don’t be surprised if the Swans aren’t picking here on draft night, with their two first-rounders up for grabs to opposition teams. They could look to purely boost their 2023 draft hand, or trade their picks with a club, such as Carlton, earlier in the draft order”

                                Phantom draft AFL 2022 | AFL phantom mock draft 2022: News, predictions, live night trades, bids, form guide, date, time, predictions

                                There’s a strong suggestion we’d swap 14 and 17 for Carlton’s 10 and a future something, which could bring players such as Jefferson, Allan and Busslinger into play.

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