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  • waswan
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2015
    • 2047

    Rightto leave it there fellas, time for Stevo to come in and respond to everyones opinion

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    • troyjones2525
      Swans Fanatic!
      • Mar 2008
      • 2908

      Originally posted by barry
      Possibility? That happens all the time. I can't remember which final it was, but one that springs to mind is a cotchin ( dirty grub,) hit on Dylan shiel in a final when he played for the giants. Blatant head contact to the opposition's hot player. I could find many other examples.
      I must disagree with you both Barry and Ludwig, I remember the Cotchin hit and while I agree it was wrong, I wouldn't have called it a blatant attempt at taking out a player. Hell, he never even got rubbed out for it! Even though I thought he should have.

      The game has well moved past players being ordered to deliberately take out the opposition, whether in Grand Finals or home and away matches. I'd be happy to hear of any more recent examples that have taken place! I can't really think of any since the 90s!

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      • troyjones2525
        Swans Fanatic!
        • Mar 2008
        • 2908

        Originally posted by waswan
        Rightto leave it there fellas, time for Stevo to come in and respond to everyones opinion
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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          Originally posted by troyjones2525
          I must disagree with you both Barry and Ludwig, I remember the Cotchin hit and while I agree it was wrong, I wouldn't have called it a blatant attempt at taking out a player. Hell, he never even got rubbed out for it! Even though I thought he should have.

          The game has well moved past players being ordered to deliberately take out the opposition, whether in Grand Finals or home and away matches. I'd be happy to hear of any more recent examples that have taken place! I can't really think of any since the 90s!

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          He didn't get rubbed out because big name players never do in big finals.
          It's the Andrew dunkley rule.

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          • KTigers
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2012
            • 2499

            i suspect we all know we mightn't have won the 2012 flag if Barry Hall hadn't got a free pass for hitting Matt Maguire.

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            • snajik
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2003
              • 1115

              Originally posted by KTigers
              i suspect we all know we mightn't have won the 2012 flag if Barry Hall hadn't got a free pass for hitting Matt Maguire.
              2005?
              It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
              The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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              • Blood Fever
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 4050

                Originally posted by waswan
                Gee wizz, in what world would we be favourites against Bulldogs..... i know it home but far out
                Agree they should be favourites. Bewildering.

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                • Roadrunner
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 1480

                  Originally posted by Ludwig
                  15th place. The number on the back of Sam Wicks. It's all starting to make sense now.

                  The Swans players were so focused on the Whisper Challenge that they forgot they were fighting for a premiership.

                  If not for an administrative error by North Melbourne we might still be in the race for the Harley Reid Cup.

                  One consolation is that we should have an easy draw next year. We might even be playing against our VFL side twice. Just to give us a leg up.

                  Should we request a priority pick? Maybe one ahead of Pick 1?
                  If we only play 2-3 quarters of football, then 15th place is where we should be. True, we lost a couple by a point and two and a draw and that maybe down to inexperience. True, we’ve had some long term injuries to key players. True, we’ve had to endure some awful umpiring. But also true- the players and coaches, especially Horse, would be just as disappointed with 15th place as all of us supporters.

                  We’ve been through worse- 72 years to wait for a flag. Let’s get behind our boys and cheer them as loudly as we can. We’re the Bloodstained Angels forever!????

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                  • Blood Fever
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 4050

                    Good post. Be ready for the backlash against your last paragraph!

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                    • caj23
                      Senior Player
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 2462

                      Originally posted by Blood Fever
                      Happy for Wicks to be sent off for that head high contact. Red card would stop reckless head contact. Serious health issue.

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                      Agree with keeping 18 on the field
                      The whole point of the send off rule is that the team with the player is one player short, otherwise where's the disadvantage?

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                      Originally posted by Ludwig
                      I can see the possibility where in a grand final a player purposely concusses a good player from the opposition side to help win the premiership. They wouldn't care about being suspended for several weeks to start the following season. A send off rule would make sense to prevent this.
                      Really?

                      1989 and 1990 aside (and that was a very different era), have you got any examples of this occurring?

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                      • dejavoodoo44
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 8637

                        Originally posted by Roadrunner
                        If we only play 2-3 quarters of football, then 15th place is where we should be. True, we lost a couple by a point and two and a draw and that maybe down to inexperience. True, we’ve had some long term injuries to key players. True, we’ve had to endure some awful umpiring. But also true- the players and coaches, especially Horse, would be just as disappointed with 15th place as all of us supporters.

                        We’ve been through worse- 72 years to wait for a flag. Let’s get behind our boys and cheer them as loudly as we can. We’re the Bloodstained Angels forever!????
                        Yes, I became a Swans supporter during the low ebb of the early 90s*. Apart from the odd down year, I've been luckily supporting the Swans through what is unquestionably their most consistently successful era. An era where we've had excellent coaches, highly competent administrators and a huge range of quality players. So, I have little time for throwing the toys out of pram, that some posters indulge in after a loss.

                        * I do a bit of psychoanalysis on that decision, in the Why Do You Follow the Swans? thread.

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                        • Blood Fever
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 4050

                          Originally posted by caj23
                          The whole point of the send off rule is that the team with the player is one player short, otherwise where's the disadvantage?

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                          Really?

                          1989 and 1990 aside (and that was a very different era), have you got any examples of this occurring?
                          So if Nankervis is sent off, there is no disadvantage?

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                          • crackedactor 01
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jun 2020
                            • 743

                            Originally posted by Ludwig
                            15th place. The number on the back of Sam Wicks. It's all starting to make sense now.

                            The Swans players were so focused on the Whisper Challenge that they forgot they were fighting for a premiership.

                            If not for an administrative error by North Melbourne we might still be in the race for the Harley Reid Cup.

                            One consolation is that we should have an easy draw next year. We might even be playing against our VFL side twice. Just to give us a leg up.

                            Should we request a priority pick? Maybe one ahead of Pick 1?
                            I also had the same thoughts. With their constant fade outs during matches it seems they are not placing a lot of value of winning this year. Either that or they cannot handle the extra pressure when a team starts fighting back. The Allies were undefeated so they may have their eyes on 2 -3 academy players from the Swans and Tasmania in the upcoming draft.

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                            • KTigers
                              Senior Player
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 2499

                              Originally posted by snajik
                              2005?
                              Yes, it's all a blur for me now.... the halcyon days....

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                              • KTigers
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 2499

                                Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                                Yes, I became a Swans supporter during the low ebb of the early 90s*. Apart from the odd down year, I've been luckily supporting the Swans through what is unquestionably their most consistently successful era. An era where we've had excellent coaches, highly competent administrators and a huge range of quality players. So, I have little time for throwing the toys out of pram, that some posters indulge in after a loss.

                                * I do a bit of psychoanalysis on that decision, in the Why Do You Follow the Swans? thread.
                                Yes, it takes so little for many posters to lose the plot. Supporting the team is a journey, not a destination....

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