Round 18 Swans v Dogs Match Thread

[Meg]

Is this our penance for finally winning a free kick count against the dogs?

Honestly, two weeks for that?

I’m still perplexed by the suspension offered to Parker - and likewise I don’t remember Rampe ever being suspended?

Nor do I recall any past MRO penalty for Rampe. Might have got rapped over the knuckles for climbing the goal post [emoji3].

If Swans appeal (likely I think unless Rampe knows he did ‘a bad thing’) then club might include in their appeal submission that there are grounds for exceptional and compelling circumstances arising from an exemplary record.

This provision does exist in the AFL Tribunal guidelines.

[ugg]

Well if he says sorry sincerely he’ll get a week’s discount a la Nankervis

[Meg]

Jon Ralph tweeted that McNeil suffered delayed concussion but Swans might challenge asking whether McNeil’s concussion was caused by this incident

https://twitter.com/ralphyheraldsun/...mF1MljTULvAiDw

Ah, that makes it difficult to defend ...

[Blood Fever]

Jon Ralph tweeted that McNeil suffered delayed concussion but Swans might challenge asking whether McNeil’s concussion was caused by this incident

https://twitter.com/ralphyheraldsun/...mF1MljTULvAiDw

Ralph in video said it was a head clash

[Meg]

Well if he says sorry sincerely he’ll get a week’s discount a la Nankervis

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[Mel_C]

In my view it was the right call by the umpire. Gulden again lowered his shoulder to force the arm high. It is the one blemish in Gulden’s game..

He is now being treated like Ginnivan and is not getting a free even if he is legitimately caught high. He has to stop doing it.

[Ludwig]

Roberts looked today like a player who hasn't played for a few months and maybe is still a bit sore. Back to the slow, indecisive Roberts that we saw most of last year (with a few good games interspersed). He would be worse that playing one down at the moment.

McLean ain't playing defence any time soon.

It was Ladham's first game back after a moderate break. He wasn't awful but nor did he look remotely ready to resume senior footy next week.

Sometimes you have to choose between the underdone and the overdone. The overdone are well and truly roasted. The underdone may still be marinating, but might be ready at any moment.

Our choices are the greatest atm.

[Mel_C]

Nor do I recall any past MRO penalty for Rampe. Might have got rapped over the knuckles for climbing the goal post [emoji3].

If Swans appeal (likely I think unless Rampe knows he did ‘a bad thing’) then club might include in their appeal submission that there are grounds for exceptional and compelling circumstances arising from an exemplary record.

This provision does exist in the AFL Tribunal guidelines.

Did he get a fine for telling the umpire to speak up and that he talks like a girl?

[Meg]

Did he get a fine for telling the umpire to speak up and that he talks like a girl?

Lol, I’d forgotten about that Dane transgression. Probably did get fined [emoji3]

[Industrial Fan]

Ah, that makes it difficult to defend ...

I can’t tell if that’s a serious post?

Does that type of collision not happen hundreds of times each game?

[Meg]

I can’t tell if that’s a serious post?

Does that type of collision not happen hundreds of times each game?

Yes it’s a serious post.

No, that type of collision - causing delayed concussion - does NOT happen ‘hundreds of times each game.

Whether you/we think off-ball tussling that leads to accidental head knocks should not be reportable, that is not what the guidelines say.

It’s very unfortunate for Rampe and the Swans. Off-ball tussling does occur numerous times every game. However if this incident led to a head knock, and that head knock led to delayed concussion, then it will be difficult to overturn I suspect.
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E) ROUGH CONDUCT
Rough Conduct is interpreted widely in relation to any conduct which is unreasonable in the circumstances. It is a Reportable Offence to intentionally or carelessly engage in Rough Conduct against an opponent which in the circumstances is unreasonable.

Without limiting the wide interpretation of Rough Conduct, particular regard shall be had to the following officially recognised forms of Rough Conduct.

1. Rough Conduct (High Bumps)
The AFL Regulations provide that a Player will be guilty of Rough Conduct where in the bumping of an opponent (whether reasonably or unreasonably) the Player causes forceful contact to be made with any part of his body to an opponent’s head or neck. Unless Intentional, such conduct will be deemed to be Careless, unless:

» The Player was contesting the ball and it was reasonable for the Player to contest the ball in that way; or
» The forceful contact to the opponent’s head or neck was caused by circumstances outside the control of the Player which could not be reasonably foreseen.

In the interests of Player safety, the purpose of the rule dealing with high bumps is to reduce, as far as practicable, the risk of head injuries to Players and this purpose needs to be kept firmly in mind by all Players and will guide the application of the rule.

Any high bump which constitutes Rough Conduct that has the potential to cause injury will usually be graded at a minimum as Medium Impact, even though the extent of the actual physical impact may be low.

For the purpose of these Guidelines, head clashes that result when a Player has elected to bump are circumstances that can reasonably be foreseen. Players will ordinarily be liable if they elect to bump if not contesting the ball.

https://resources.afl.com.au/afl/doc...Guidelines.pdf page 12

[liz]

I can’t tell if that’s a serious post?

Does that type of collision not happen hundreds of times each game?

The vision included in the tweet of Jon Ralph's comments on the incident is a lot clearer than that on the AFL website. It clearly shows that Rampe deliberately moved towards the Dogs player and initiated contact. It wasn't just an accidental collision, unfortunately. And while it doesn't seem as heinous as Nankervis's bump on Lloyd last week, it was just as unnecessary.

[Meg]

Thanks Liz. I haven’t looked at that footage. [emoji30]

[stevoswan]

MATCH REVIEW: Sydney Swans co-captain Dane Rampe banned for off-the-ball hit on Lachlan McNeil

This is a bit of a bummer, particularly coming out of the blue. I didn't notice anything at the game, and I guess the fact it wasn't captured clearly on the coverage is why the media hadn't highlighted it. It's particularly unfortunate, team wise, given we've just lost Melican too.

Seriously? Two matches for that? It's hard to tell what sort of contact is made from the available footage.....seems a vindictive suspension to me. I think the Swans will appeal that....it's BS.

Even that Twitter footage is not convincing to me.....and as Ralph asks, was it even this incident that caused the 'delayed concussion'? This is a Vic stitch up.

[Industrial Fan]

I get that Rampe initiated contact but that appears to be a really innocuous block off the ball which happens pretty much any time the ball is kicked inside 50?

Perhaps I’m too blinkered but I honestly can’t see where there is even an infringement there let alone a two week suspension.