2024 List Management

[Auntie.Gerald]

The Chad is our next Heeney for me

But It’s hard to have two in the team due $ required

I suppose we have gone a little lighter cost on our Key Talls at either end to go heavy on mids

makes sense if so……..ie best chance of keeping The Chad

[Roadrunner]

The Chad is our next Heeney for me

But It’s hard to have two in the team due $ required

I suppose we have gone a little lighter cost on our Key Talls at either end to go heavy on mids

makes sense if so……..ie best chance of keeping The Chad

Do we know what Chad is on currently and how much is he worth? We can’t really compare him to the Bont or Crisp or say Petracca. A 4 year deal @ around 1Mill a year- can we afford that? I wouldn’t think we could offer more.

[Auntie.Gerald]

is suspect the big issue for us is if Freeo or West Coast go crazy on their $ offer and or years...........that will make it very hard to compete and we may have to trade if we dont match.

Lots to play out but you would think his current contract for 2025 will be miles behind what he will attract in 2026 ie $1mill pa plus

[Nico]

At the end of 2025 Chad is still not a free agent. If he wants to go then one of those 2 WA clubs has to stump up 2 first round picks, preferably Top 10.

[UUaswan]

Freo money would be similar
West Coast would be ridiculous, if he was going there, you would want Reid signed long term

[Thunder Shaker]

At the end of 2025 Chad is still not a free agent. If he wants to go then one of those 2 WA clubs has to stump up 2 first round picks, preferably Top 10.

More likely, such a trade would be a trade of equivalent value in draft points. First-round picks are not going to be very useful for Sydney next year with Sydney having some Academy prospects in next year's draft (Lachlan Carmichael, Noah Chamberlain and Max King, with King rated as a top-10 prospect and the others as top 25). The Swans will need a fistful of second-round and third-round draft picks to match bids on them. Watch West Coast in particular: they have already got two sets of second-round and third-round picks in next year's draft and can trade for more. It's possible that we end up losing Chad Warner to a trade with West Coast, get a decent haul of mid-draft picks in return and recruit all three Academy players via bids.

[Roadrunner]

At the end of 2025 Chad is still not a free agent. If he wants to go then one of those 2 WA clubs has to stump up 2 first round picks, preferably Top 10.

So does that mean we have a reasonably strong hand in case he doesn’t extend by end 2025?

[mcs]

More likely, such a trade would be a trade of equivalent value in draft points. First-round picks are not going to be very useful for Sydney next year with Sydney having some Academy prospects in next year's draft (Lachlan Carmichael, Noah Chamberlain and Max King, with King rated as a top-10 prospect and the others as top 25). The Swans will need a fistful of second-round and third-round draft picks to match bids on them. Watch West Coast in particular: they have already got two sets of second-round and third-round picks in next year's draft and can trade for more. It's possible that we end up losing Chad Warner to a trade with West Coast, get a decent haul of mid-draft picks in return and recruit all three Academy players via bids.

Just stockpiling later picks is going to be a far less viable approach to meeting bids for academy prospects going forward with the changes coming: https://www.afl.com.au/news/1257873/change-is-coming-how-brisbane-lions-bids-would-look-in-2025#:~:text=The%20rule%20change%20means%20clubs,r educed%20to%2010%20per%20cent.

So it'll probably mean we will need more live earlier picks potentially, if we do intend on taking all 3.

So does that mean we have a reasonably strong hand in case he doesn’t extend by end 2025?

Only if one of those clubs don't have a viable way to walk him to the draft - west coast being the obvious one that could finish low enough to just about achieve that outcome. Would certainly be a surprise for freo to finish that low.

[Thunder Shaker]

Just stockpiling later picks is going to be a far less viable approach to meeting bids for academy prospects going forward with the changes coming: https://www.afl.com.au/news/1257873/change-is-coming-how-brisbane-lions-bids-would-look-in-2025#:~:text=The%20rule%20change%20means%20clubs,r educed%20to%2010%20per%20cent.

So it'll probably mean we will need more live earlier picks potentially, if we do intend on taking all 3.

It wouldn't surprise me if the Swans ended up holding onto a pick late in the first round next year for the purpose of bid matching.

Hypothetical scenario: Sydney has pick 18 (836 points). Max King is bid on at pick 8 (1443 points). To match: 1298.7, which would eat up pick 18 with 462.7 points left over (roughly pick 29). So bid matching would require more significant picks than in previous years.

[Auntie.Gerald]

At the end of 2025 Chad is still not a free agent. If he wants to go then one of those 2 WA clubs has to stump up 2 first round picks, preferably Top 10.

Hey Nico

mate I suspect the challenge though, like the Hawks encountered with Buddy…….is if say a WA team goes in hard with Chad and maybe a set of steak knives for Corey then we might not be able to match the $ deal…….which means he can move on if we don’t match dollar for dollar.

I am presuming I have the rules right re contracts for a no free agent player.

will be interesting to see how it unfolds

We are in a window so u would think he may sign on just two more years here……..unless he wants long term security and to be back home ?

[Auntie.Gerald]

At the end of 2025 Chad is still not a free agent. If he wants to go then one of those 2 WA clubs has to stump up 2 first round picks, preferably Top 10.

Hey Nico

mate I suspect the challenge though, like the Hawks encountered with Buddy…….is if say a WA team goes in hard with Chad and maybe a set of steak knives for Corey then we might not be able to match the $ deal…….which means he can move on if we don’t match dollar for dollar.

I am presuming I have the rules right re contracts for a no free agent player.

will be interesting to see how it unfolds

We are in a window so u would think he may sign on just two more years here……..unless he wants long term security and to be back home ?

[UUaswan]

Part of me think he is signed and will be announced as a Xmas present on social media.

Maybe wishful thinking, but there seems to be too much talk by the club as well as others for this to just continue as normal Into next year

[Thunder Shaker]

Sydney has yet to announce jumper numbers for new players. The announcement is due very soon because 15 clubs have already revealed theirs.

Vacant numbers: 18, 20, 23, 25, 26, 32, 38, 46 and up.
Players needing numbers: Jesse Dattoli, Ned Bowman, Riley Bice, Riak Andrew, Blake Leidler, Ben Paton.

So who gets what number?

Unlike last year, there's no clear-cut guesses for any numbers. 23 may be rested, possibly 26 as well. 18 could go to Dattoli, but apart from that it's hard to make reasonable guesses that don't look like simply assigning the available numbers in the same order as the players were drafted. So I won't guess this time.

[0918330512]

Sydney has yet to announce jumper numbers for new players. The announcement is due very soon because 15 clubs have already revealed theirs.

Vacant numbers: 18, 20, 23, 25, 26, 32, 38, 46 and up.
Players needing numbers: Jesse Dattoli, Ned Bowman, Riley Bice, Riak Andrew, Blake Leidler, Ben Paton.

So who gets what number?

Unlike last year, there's no clear-cut guesses for any numbers. 23 may be rested, possibly 26 as well. 18 could go to Dattoli, but apart from that it's hard to make reasonable guesses that don't look like simply assigning the available numbers in the same order as the players were drafted. So I won't guess this time.

Don’t see the need to rest 26. If he retired, sure. But he chose to leave for $ while still under contract. Love him as a Swan, but for now he’s a Roo.

[Thunder Shaker]

Don’t see the need to rest 26. If he retired, sure. But he chose to leave for $ while still under contract. Love him as a Swan, but for now he’s a Roo.

If 26 isn't rested, I expect it may be given to Riley Bice. That was his number at Werribee.