key defender trade prospects

[Newbie]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
I would hate to see either Crouch or Mathews traded - I think they are long-term leaders for the club.

They have been good servants to the club. We need players like them to be competitive. However we seem to have too many players of this nature. They make the team competitive but dont win games. To win the flag, we need a fair share of game winners. If we want to rebalance our list to have a better share of game winners, it is natural that we let some of these players go. It is then a matter of letting younger but fringe players go or letting more older established players go. If it comes down to this question, my natural answer is the latter in which Mathews and Crouch are the most applicable type.

With our current structure, my fear is that we will be found out when we are getting close to the ultimate assault. By then it might be too late to rectify the situation and it takes us back several years. We have waited long enough, I think.

[Bleed Red Blood]

Re: key defender trade prospects

Count me in for a Bradshaw, playing at full forward he would give Hall a contested marking player to kick too.At CHB he could replace Rogers or LRT or James whoever of those is at CHB if injured.

[robbieando]

Originally posted by Newbie
They have been good servants to the club. We need players like them to be competitive. However we seem to have too many players of this nature. They make the team competitive but dont win games. To win the flag, we need a fair share of game winners. If we want to rebalance our list to have a better share of game winners, it is natural that we let some of these players go. It is then a matter of letting younger but fringe players go or letting more older established players go. If it comes down to this question, my natural answer is the latter in which Mathews and Crouch are the most applicable type.

With our current structure, my fear is that we will be found out when we are getting close to the ultimate assault. By then it might be too late to rectify the situation and it takes us back several years. We have waited long enough, I think.

So who at Richmond will help rebalance our list???? Trust Ray Hall isn't that man

[Newbie]

Originally posted by chammond

I can see that Richmond would jump at the opportunity, especially if Rocket gets the coaching job, but who could they offer that is as good as Crouch?

Ottens? Brown? Richo? Anyone else??

Seriously, do you think Crouch would be worth a good 1st round pick? I presume both Ottens and Brown are. Richo is very difficult to check the market value.

Paying a 1st round for Crouch is similar to paying 15 million pounds for a good combative midfielder with no attacking fair and limited ball distribution skill in soccer.

[Newbie]

Originally posted by robbieando
So who at Richmond will help rebalance our list???? Trust Ray Hall isn't that man

Their draft picks will.

[robbieando]

Originally posted by Newbie
Their draft picks will.

Chances are the person we pick with it, won't play seniors until 2006 and won't perform at the level required for a few more after that. Plus why trade for a low 2nd Round when we already have a high first round. You plan isn't a good one

[dendol]

Originally posted by robbieando
So who at Richmond will help rebalance our list???? Trust Ray Hall isn't that man

Ottens would be a good start. But not for Crouchy. He's played almost 150 consecutive games for us, and still looks to be improving as the seasons go by. He is honest, hard-working, and negates the fastest player on every opposition team. I think he is far too good for us to consider trading away.

As much as it pains me to say it, Fosdike and Ablett - who may increase in substantial value if he keeps playing well - are our best bets of getting a quality player in return.

[Newbie]

Originally posted by robbieando
Chances are the person we pick with it, won't play seniors until 2006 and won't perform at the level required for a few more after that. Plus why trade for a low 2nd Round when we already have a high first round. You plan isn't a good one

This is similiar to the question of why we need five bucks if we already have ten. With 15 bucks however, we could have got a chocolate pack. You might argue that the chocolate pack is no good but it has nothing to do with getting five bucks in the first place. It is the problem of how to spend 15 bucks. Do we need a box of chocolates? Sure we do. We need one or two .

[Captain]

Originally posted by dendol
Ottens would be a good start. But not for Crouchy. He's played almost 150 consecutive games for us, and still looks to be improving as the seasons go by. He is honest, hard-working, and negates the fastest player on every opposition team. I think he is far too good for us to consider trading away.

As much as it pains me to say it, Fosdike and Ablett - who may increase in substantial value if he keeps playing well - are our best bets of getting a quality player in return.

I think Ottens as well.

Ottens for Fosdike and a second round pick.

[Newbie]

Originally posted by dendol

As much as it pains me to say it, Fosdike and Ablett - who may increase in substantial value if he keeps playing well - are our best bets of getting a quality player in return.

If Ablett is playing well, there is no reason to trade him. A midfielder who could kick 50m with some accuracy from a stopage? how many of them do we have??

[Newbie]

Originally posted by Captain
I think Ottens as well.

Ottens for Fosdike and a second round pick.

The problem is that Richmond dont need Fosdike. They have enough of outside midfielders with no defensive skills.

[chammond]

Originally posted by Newbie
Seriously, do you think Crouch would be worth a good 1st round pick?

Er . . . he was a good 1st round pick . . . and plays like one.

Paying a 1st round for Crouch is similar to paying 15 million pounds for a good combative midfielder with no attacking fair and limited ball distribution skill in soccer.

No it's not.

This is similiar to the question of why we need five bucks if we already have ten.

No it isn't.

Who on earth writes your stuff . . . Homer Simpson?

[liz]

Anyone who thinks that Mathews or Crouch are readily expendable has rocks in their heads IMHO. They are two of the hardest working and most consistent players in the team. Both would be in the top half dozen in the B&F to this point of the season, I suspect. They may not attract the headlines but take either of them out of the team and you would soon realise how important they are.

Yes, we might have to give up quality to get quality but it would need to be something seriously good to warrant losing either of these two.

[Newbie]

Originally posted by chammond

Who on earth writes your stuff . . . Homer Simpson?

No wonder, you are from the centre of universe, Cliff

[dendol]

Originally posted by Newbie
If Ablett is playing well, there is no reason to trade him. A midfielder who could kick 50m with some accuracy from a stopage? how many of them do we have??

fair enough.. but I was only picking out a player that MAY be of value at the end of the year. We have plenty of midfielders on the list, but many of them are still rookies and wont be worth much yet.

I dont envy the job of the coaching staff at year's end, thats for sure.