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  • Ruda Wakening
    Survived The Meltdown
    • Aug 2003
    • 1519

    #16
    Originally posted by daniel f
    At least his young and hopefully will improve
    If you're good enough you're old enough.
    Sit down or i swear to God i'll have you shot.

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    • chammond
      • Jan 2003
      • 1368

      #17
      Originally posted by NMWBloods
      I thought he was poor yesterday.

      Amazing that he still received the votes in the paper!! WTF!?!

      He had 23 disposals, most of them pretty much ineffective. Tried hard, but gave us nothing.

      (of course he wasn't alone there, but again I say he is meant to be one of our best midfielders).
      And once again he was one of our best midfielders . . . most clearances of either side (9) and a terrific 6 centre bounce clearances (the same as Hasleby, Bell, Cook and Schammer combined.

      Add to that he was our 2nd best possession winner, best for kicks, and by far our most effective tackler . . . any reasonable fan would say he's worth at least $300,000 to any team in the comp.

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      • Diego
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Jan 2003
        • 946

        #18
        Originally posted by chammond
        And once again he was one of our best midfielders . . . most clearances of either side (9) and a terrific 6 centre bounce clearances (the same as Hasleby, Bell, Cook and Schammer combined.

        Add to that he was our 2nd best possession winner, best for kicks, and by far our most effective tackler . . . any reasonable fan would say he's worth at least $300,000 to any team in the comp.
        HAHAHAHAHAH

        ohhh

        HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA


        ahhhhhh thanks for the laugh I needed it.

        Fool.

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        • NMWBloods
          Taking Refuge!!
          • Jan 2003
          • 15819

          #19
          Originally posted by chammond
          And once again he was one of our best midfielders . . . most clearances of either side (9) and a terrific 6 centre bounce clearances (the same as Hasleby, Bell, Cook and Schammer combined.

          Add to that he was our 2nd best possession winner, best for kicks, and by far our most effective tackler . . . any reasonable fan would say he's worth at least $300,000 to any team in the comp.
          But if you actually look at those possessions properly, and not simply take them at face value, you'll see that many of his possessions were not particularly effective, as I've already said.
          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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          • Diego
            Suspended by the MRP
            • Jan 2003
            • 946

            #20
            Being a dickhead aside it seems that quantity rather than quality qualifies you for BOG these days.

            One passage of play yesterday, Jude wins the ball to only kick it 50 metres up instead of forward.

            Are those kind of ineffective possessions that win you BOG these days? Let alone earn 300k?

            I don't think so.

            How many times during stoppages and around the ground did you see freo players loose everywhere?

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            • chammond
              • Jan 2003
              • 1368

              #21
              Originally posted by NMWBloods
              But if you actually look at those possessions properly, and not simply take them at face value, you'll see that many of his possessions were not particularly effective, as I've already said.
              But again, that's only your opinion, which differs from mine, and apparently from the media "experts" who rated him very highly.

              I think he played well, and my opinion is backed up by the stats and by the media.

              You think he played poorly, and your opinion is backed up by Diego.

              I rest my case!

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              • NMWBloods
                Taking Refuge!!
                • Jan 2003
                • 15819

                #22
                The media 'experts' - LOL - I'd hate to have to rely on their views!!

                Go and watch the game again and you will notice how many times his kicks were ineffective - sideways or up in the air or missing targets. He was not a threat for most of the game.

                There were a number of better players for us on the field than him, but none of them good.
                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                • Nico
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 11339

                  #23
                  He rarely kicks it more than 20 metres.
                  http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                  • Triple B
                    Formerly 'BBB'
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 6999

                    #24
                    I rarely buy into slagging any of our players.

                    I have stood up for our guys plenty of times when deserved, but prefer to say nothing if I feel they have been poor.

                    But if anybody could possibly believe Jude had a good game yesterday, well they simply have no idea. The so-called media 'experts' would just look at stats and see that Jude got a bit of the ball, thus rate him in the best.

                    The fact that he turned over possession more times than some genuine '300K' players would turn it over in a season gets lost when talking about stats.

                    That's my opinion Chammond.
                    Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                    • chammond
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 1368

                      #25
                      Originally posted by BBB
                      That's my opinion Chammond.
                      And you're entitled to it, as am I to mine. But let's face it, you have no more to back up your opinion than NMW does.

                      Bolton battled hard all day, did more than his share, and earned his pay.

                      That's my opinion. And the stats back it up.

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                      • Ruckman
                        Ego alta, ergo ictus
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 3990

                        #26
                        Originally posted by chammond
                        And once again he [Jude] was one of our best midfielders . . . most clearances of either side (9) and a terrific 6 centre bounce clearances (the same as Hasleby, Bell, Cook and Schammer combined.

                        Add to that he was our 2nd best possession winner, best for kicks, and by far our most effective tackler . . . any reasonable fan would say he's worth at least $300,000 to any team in the comp.
                        I agree with you, I was impressed with his centre square work and I rate him very highly for courage. It was great to see him getting the most clearances.

                        Some of the peanuts on this forum seem really unbalanced about Bolton.

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                        • swansrule100
                          The quarterback
                          • May 2004
                          • 4538

                          #27
                          Judes been our best for the last month!!!!!!

                          hes worth 300k if not more!
                          Theres not much left to say

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                          • NMWBloods
                            Taking Refuge!!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15819

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Ruckman
                            Some of the peanuts on this forum seem really unbalanced about Bolton.
                            So... if we only have our opinions then we should resort to name calling to validate our views further...?

                            He comes under a lot of scrutiny because he gets a lot of possessions and he is meant to be our top midfielder.
                            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                            • swansrule100
                              The quarterback
                              • May 2004
                              • 4538

                              #29
                              everyones entitled to their views
                              Theres not much left to say

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                              • Ruckman
                                Ego alta, ergo ictus
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 3990

                                #30
                                Originally posted by NMWBloods
                                So... if we only have our opinions then we should resort to name calling to validate our views further...?


                                Name calling, "Peanuts"? Wow?

                                Bloods you must really get upset with all *'s that appear in some posts.

                                However your right it is name calling, so MY BAD.

                                I do however think that some people do tend to harp on about their "anti-favourite"

                                Perhaps we could call it "Umpire's syndrome" in view of their bias against Barry Hall?

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