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  • NMWBloods
    Taking Refuge!!
    • Jan 2003
    • 15819

    #31
    I'm not sure if he actually struggled to support White. Melbourne don't like taking White off - they tend to run him all game- so that presents limited opportunities for Jolly. I don't think he's great, but I think he's reasonable and probably worth a second round pick.
    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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    • Ruckman
      Ego alta, ergo ictus
      • Nov 2003
      • 3990

      #32
      Originally posted by Schneiderman
      But a beanpole in the square is the perfect way to remove the opposing teams number one backman.
      Unfortunately beanpoles in the goal square aren't much of a threat so they don't attract the opposing teams number 1 backman, they attract a 6fter thats capable of bodying and sweeping arms.
      None of our apponents moved their key defender from Barry Hall to Doyle for precisely this reason.
      On the other hand a 7fter moving about near goal is ~ I'm not sure why but unfortunately most ruckmen are crap at this.

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      • dendol
        fat-arsed midfielder
        • Oct 2003
        • 1483

        #33
        Originally posted by Ruckman
        Unfortunately beanpoles in the goal square aren't much of a threat so they don't attract the opposing teams number 1 backman, they attract a 6fter thats capable of bodying and sweeping arms.
        None of our apponents moved their key defender from Barry Hall to Doyle for precisely this reason.
        On the other hand a 7fter moving about near goal is ~ I'm not sure why but unfortunately most ruckmen are crap at this.
        Peter Everitt, Brendon Lade, Matthew Primus, Clark Keating, just to name a few, are pretty good at taking marks near the goalsquare!

        Thats why I think Ottens would be good for us, providing he is fit.

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        • Ruckman
          Ego alta, ergo ictus
          • Nov 2003
          • 3990

          #34
          Originally posted by dendol
          Peter Everitt, Brendon Lade, Matthew Primus, Clark Keating, just to name a few, are pretty good at taking marks near the goalsquare!
          They are indeed, but none of them (primus excepted) is a statric target.

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          • gloveski
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2003
            • 1018

            #35
            latest rumour is Sydney are offering their first round pick for Jolly.
            A bit overpriced in my opinion...............we seem hell bent on trading our first round pick thats for sure

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            • ugg
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              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 15963

              #36
              Source? and please don't say bigfooty.
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              • sharpie
                On the Rookie List
                • Jul 2003
                • 1588

                #37
                seems we've finally got someone. jolly for 1st round pick.


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                • Captain
                  Captain of the Side
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 3602

                  #38
                  Originally posted by sharpie
                  seems we've finally got someone. jolly for 1st round pick.


                  http://sydneyswans.com.au/default.as...ticleid=174304
                  A 1st round pick, what a bloody joke!

                  The guy will be ok but to say he is worth a first round pick is out of this world. Melbourne will be laughing all of the way to the draft.

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                  • NMWBloods
                    Taking Refuge!!
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 15819

                    #39
                    I think that's a reasonable outcome.

                    Hopefully we can do something exciting tomorrow though!
                    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                    • ugg
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                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15963

                      #40
                      I would say the price was a bit too high, but considering other clubs were after him , we may have been forced to offer #15. Hopefully he can flourish after leaving Melbourne, a la Simmonds at Freo.
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                      • Snowy
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 1244

                        #41
                        A first round pick is too much, a bit of a Melbourne con job. No way anything exciting can be done now unless key players are shed.
                        LIFE GOES ON

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                        • Bear
                          Best and Fairest
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 1022

                          #42
                          I don't know much about Jolly but my nephew is a MFC member.

                          He is disappointed to lose him, and rates him as one of his favourites.

                          He is apparently quite tough and skillful. Still developing though in areas such as contested marking.
                          "As a player he simply should not have been able to do the things he did. Leo was a 185cm, 88kg full-back and played on some of the biggest, fastest and best full-forwards of all time, and constantly beat them." Roos.
                          Leo Barry? you star! We'll miss ya, ''Leapin''.

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                          • Captain
                            Captain of the Side
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 3602

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Snowy
                            A first round pick is too much, a bit of a Melbourne con job. No way anything exciting can be done now unless key players are shed.
                            SEN just reported that Sydney has been the biggest loser of the trade period by giving up too much for Jolly.

                            I tend to agree (unless we get Ottens though)

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                            • Tilt
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 66

                              #44
                              I agree with most of you guys - I think Jolly for a round one pick is a fu*king joke, however I had lunch with my best mate today who is a mad Melbourne supporter and he really rates Darren Jolly. He is a pretty good judge so hopefully it will be a good deal for us.

                              We obviously need a ruckman and the Ottens deal looks like its not going to fall our way so at least we've got somebody.

                              We can only wait until next year I suppose.

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                              • Snowy
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 1244

                                #45
                                Can't get Ottens now that the first pick has gone and why grab two ruckmen? Actually could have probably landed a potentially decent ruckman in this year's draft with that pick.
                                LIFE GOES ON

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