Jolly

[Damien]

Originally posted by Tilt
I agree with most of you guys - I think Jolly for a round one pick is a fu*king joke, however I had lunch with my best mate today who is a mad Melbourne supporter and he really rates Darren Jolly. He is a pretty good judge so hopefully it will be a good deal for us.

We obviously need a ruckman and the Ottens deal looks like its not going to fall our way so at least we've got somebody.

We can only wait until next year I suppose.

Yeah my Demon mad boss is p*ssed off that he is leaving the demons at all.

Time will tell who has won out of it.

[Foreign Legion]

Well, I doubt we will even be chasing Ottens anymore - we don't need another ruckman now.

Probably a bit over the odds for Jolly, but really, we can't wait for Ericksen and we weren't going to pick up a kid in the draft to play this year. This gives us good ruck depth if Ball/Doyle get injured and Jolly might blossom with more time on the ball.

Only way we will get Ottens now is through the PSD.

[NMWBloods]

Jolly will be more useful to us next year than Kepler Bradley is for Essendon.

[Foreign Legion]

Is anyone else having trouble getting into Bigfooty?

I'm trying to find out news about any other trades but site seems to be down!

[barry]

Our 1st round picks is hardly quality. What is it, about 17th ??

Jolly is worth a good 2nd round pick IMO, so for us it was always going to be our bad 1st rounder or a fringe player + 2nd rounder.

It will be a great trade if we can snare a decent midfielder as well.
On its own is nothing fantastic.

[Charlie]

So... Jolly is ours, huh?

I guess that means we've given up on Ottens. I don't think giving up pick 15 is MUCH more than giving up Fosdike. Jury will be out for now, but if he establishes himself as a regular 22 player, it will be a good get.

What is he, 21?

[originalswan]

Teams don't usually give up their first round picks unless they get quality - What does the Footy world class Jolly as...at best up and comer (I kept reading to see if we had got anything else - must be another trade in the pipelines?)

If this is our only trade then I would feel we haven't had a very successful or "aggressive" result.

I must qualify this though in saying I did not see Jolly in all of his
7 Games this year!

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Charlie
What is he, 21?

23

[Damien]

Originally posted by Charlie
So... Jolly is ours, huh?

I guess that means we've given up on Ottens. I don't think giving up pick 15 is MUCH more than giving up Fosdike. Jury will be out for now, but if he establishes himself as a regular 22 player, it will be a good get.

What is he, 21?

About to turn 23.

http://demons.com.au/default.asp?pg=players&spg=playerprofile

[Foreign Legion]

Jolly will be 23 in December I think so he SHOULD be a 5 year player hopefully.

There is no way we would have gotten someone with pick 15 who could have played 1st ruck this year. I reckon Jolly may be 'thrown to the wolves' early in the season with Bally coming off the bench and Doyle sitting at FF - could be a plan.

Lets see him play a few games before we judge whether we have 'won or lost' on the deal.

[Charlie]

Cheers.

Still, that's a 10 year ruckman for us if he turns out all right. The important part is that he'll be ready next year. If we used pick 15 on a young ruckman, he wouldn't be really ready for 2 or 3 years after Ball retires.

I'm not rapt but I'm not devastated, either. I'll wait and see.

As for a midfielder - well, there simply isn't one who's obviously available.

[anne]

Over at Big Footy everyone is saying that Sydney has been ripped off bigtime with this trade. Still it's probably better than giving up half the team to get Ottens.

[ugg]

Pretty big lad at 200cm and 100kg. Will give us options next year but definitely the club was thinking ahead and he will be Ball's replacement when he retires.

[Captain]

Look at his stats for 2004.

Jolly is not the player going to carry our premership ruck hopes.

He is a servicable, second string ruckman. That's it.

We have been shafted badly.

[Mike_B]

Remember that the talk this year is that its a thin draft - would we have necessarily gotten a highly rated kid with #15....maybe, but probably not. They did what they had to do to make something happen while realising Ottens was an unlikely trade for us.