Swans V Hawks Rd 1

[Nolie]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
They did both.

Why did the crowd boo then?
Oh I forgot - according to you they are ignoramuses.

[Ruda Wakening]

Originally posted by Nolie
On this kicking backwards at the end of the game thread: Watching on telly I noticed a LOT of people in the crowd departing early. Why?. The Swans should have destroyed Hawthorn by piling on goals at the end - and thereby keeping those early leavers there. They left because it was boring.

Margins or boredom has nothing to do with it. Loads of people leave the SCG early most games.

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by Nolie
Why did the crowd boo then?
Oh I forgot - according to you they are ignoramuses.

No, just you.

[liz]

Originally posted by Nolie
On this kicking backwards at the end of the game thread: Watching on telly I noticed a LOT of people in the crowd departing early. Why?.

Sadly they always do. Maybe it has something to do with getting away from the SCG precinct before the traffic builds up. Even if the Swans were one point ahead with two minutes to play you'd have had some people leaving.

Diverging somewhat - I was pretty impressed with the loud speaker performance at the end of the game. The song literally boomed out all around the ground. Sometimes its a bit wimpish and you can struggle to hear it but not today!

[Nolie]

Casting one's mind back to the 1996 Preliminary Final, Essendon could have and should have won that game if it had employed the "kicking backwards, keeping off, time wasting" tactics that has become a blight on the game.
But then the dumb New South Welsh public would not have understood the sublety of the situation at that time either I guess.

[ROK Lobster]

You have lost me now Nolie. Can you please explain two things though.

Other than your own entertainment, what was to be gained by kicking to a contest with a minute and a half to go?

Why weren't Hawthorn marking up and forcing the Swan's to kick to a contest?

[cruiser]

Originally posted by liz
Sadly they always do. Maybe it has something to do with getting away from the SCG precinct before the traffic builds up. Even if the Swans were one point ahead with two minutes to play you'd have had some people leaving.

I disagree. I dont think that Sydney supporters are any different to anywhere else. For example, I dont recall seeing one single person leave the 96 prelim final until after the final siren.

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by cruiser
I disagree. I dont think that Sydney supporters are any different to anywhere else. For example, I dont recall seeing one single person leave the 96 prelim final until after the final siren.

The parking was much better in those days.

[Nolie]

Originally posted by cruiser
Settle kids. Just be happy that we won (I personally thought that the kick to kick was unnecessary given the margin).

Don't get me wrong. It was a most enjoyable and entertaining game. A lot of positives. Nick Davis looked very fit - appears to have shed a few kilos. The attack into the forward line in the first and second quarters was excellent. I thought Doyle and Jolly's games in particular were very good.
The last bit was as you say was simply unnecessary.

[liz]

Originally posted by cruiser
I disagree. I dont think that Sydney supporters are any different to anywhere else. For example, I dont recall seeing one single person leave the 96 prelim final until after the final siren.

I don't recall much at all from that game other than collapsing in an emotionally exhausted heap once the ball went sailing through the posts!

[Nolie]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
You have lost me now Nolie. Can you please explain two things though.

Other than your own entertainment, what was to be gained by kicking to a contest with a minute and a half to go?

Why weren't Hawthorn marking up and forcing the Swan's to kick to a contest?

Number one: Having read numerous RWO posts over the last year I see contributors moaning about the "good old days" when the Swans would kick massive scores. They should have buried Hawthorn and given their percentage a boost. Last year SS only just finished ahead of West Coast (on percentage) which gave them a home final
Two: Don't the midfielders trust the forwards enough to mark in a contest? Give 'em some practice I say.

What a load of poppycock about avoiding injuries. Every second on the ground there is potential for an injury. Hell! It has been known for players to injure themselves in the warm up!

Last question: Touche. I agree. If the Hawks did not/would not/could not mark up then they deserved to be treated with contempt. Doesn't make it any less ugly.

[NMWBloods]

I still don't understand why there is not a set play to get Davis free around the 50 and get him the ball.

[Doctor]

A few observations from Bay 29:-

- like most others, I thought Jolly was excellent. A terrific start to what will hopefully be a successful Sydney career. The presence of an extra 'tall' in the lineup had a significant impact. Certainly Everitt, who has virtually beaten us on his own in seasons past, was not able to be that effective today

- It looks like we have adapted to the new HTB interpretation far better than the naysayers thought we would. Also, it looks like our tradtional strength in the tackling dept will help us win some decision in this area

- Nice to see Hall win some frees, that were all definitely there. On the whole, I thought the umpiring was very good today. it's easy to bag them but let's give some credit where it's due. They even managed to correctly overturn a potentially bad decision with the mark over the boundary line near the behind post at the Randwick end.

- Matthews' continual hunting of Bateman after Bateman had taken him high was brilliant. He must have really smashed him (legally) at least 3 times after that incident. Top stuff!!!

- It's hard to tell just how well we played because of how poor Hawthorn were. next week will be a better test. I do wish we'd kept our feet on the pedal though when we had Hawthorn on the rack. On the other hand, it was pretty warm out there.

- I was disappointed with the booing at the end because Hawthorn had clearly thrown everyone behind the ball. Why should we go at them that close to the end when they were making no effort to be positive? It probably did show a lack of understanding of the reasons behind it, or a belief that the tactics were wrong, even for those who did understand what was happening but there's no reason for anyone to get 'holier than thou' about it.

- All the attractive young women who showed up today in tight, revealing tops today are welcome to continue that practice :-)

[ugg]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
I still don't understand why there is not a set play to get Davis free around the 50 and get him the ball.

Surely Davis's opponent wouldn't let Nick wander too far away to get a shot off.

[Donners]

Quite an impressive performance. I was happily surprised by Jolly and Buchanon in particular, and the team flowed well in general.

However, I still can't see what McVeigh is doing in the side ahead of Spriggs and Fosdike, and Bevan was downright terrible at times. Hopefully that was just a one-off bad game, but he made an incredible number of mistakes from few chances. Doyle also seemed to lack any real role.