Colless has to go

[Red@WhiteBaron]

Originally posted by Schneiderman
Have patience.

For a long time, this is the exact phrase that my friends and I have been consoling each other with at the end of the season. Since '96, we've seen Adelaide win 2 premierships in a row, the Kangaroos their second in 3 years, Essendon their second in 7 years, Brisbane 3 in a row, and Port their first in the AFL.

Our club?s victory against Port in the 2003 qualifying final was great, but we were smashed by Brisbane 2 weeks later; in 2004 we beat West Coast (convincingly) in the elimination, only to be butchered by the Saints the following week. Finals appearances are not enough. History remembers premierships, and need I remind you all that our last one was back in 1933 - almost 72 years ago.

What is wrong? Do we not want the same level of success that other clubs seem to be drowning in?

Does it mean little to pull on that red and white guernsey each week?

As supporters, is it enough for us to say "have patience" year after year after year? I say no.

There is rot at the club, and we need to cut it out before it gets further out of control. As unpleasant a prospect that may seem to some, it is a cold hard fact.

Round 6 has gone and although we're 2-4 with 16 games still to come, there are some really ugly signs when the team takes to the field.

If no action is taken, then I can see the problem worsening and all of a sudden we find ourselves having a repeat of 1992-1994.

Let?s not get apathetic. Let?s get rid of this insipid style of football, and let?s see a return of the direct and exciting free-flowing style of play that we were privileged to see a couple of years ago.

The board need to take a good hard look at what's wrong with our club. In my eyes, the entire football department needs to go. We need a coach who's tough; someone who will also have intelligent coaching staff support him with their progressive match tactics and knowledge of the game.

There are many youngsters at the club who have the potential to become champion footballers; but without the right coaching staff and without the right environment, this will never happen.

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[Nolie]

Originally posted by Red@WhiteBaron



There is rot at the club, and we need to cut it out before it gets further out of control. As unpleasant a prospect that may see.

Obviously the "rot" has been there for 72 years. Why hasn't someone cut it out before now?
So the current incumbents get blamed for 72 years of "rot"

[liz]

Originally posted by Red@WhiteBaron

Let?s not get apathetic. Let?s get rid of this insipid style of football, and let?s see a return of the direct and exciting free-flowing style of play that we were privileged to see a couple of years ago.

The board need to take a good hard look at what's wrong with our club. In my eyes, the entire football department needs to go. We need a coach who's tough; someone who will also have intelligent coaching staff support him with their progressive match tactics and knowledge of the game.

Er...wouldn't that be the football department that produced the very exciting style of football you desire just 2 years ago?

2003 was, in part, a reaction to a new coach. Coaching seems to be much easier in the first year than subsequently. Eade took his side to the GF. Thompson's team played finals. So did Danhier's. And Ayres (at Geelong). Even Frawley managed it.

If a club can only play good football in the first year of a coaching appointment and isn't prepared to ride out the bumps and troughs and show patience and let a coach build his side, learn a bit as he goes and hopefully find a winning mix then surely that's when it is really in deep deep poo.

The fact that the Swans have not won a premiership for 72 years is surely irrelevant in Roos' and Ireland's task and to burden them with that is plain daft.

Maybe we will look back in five years time at Roos reign as a disaster. Maybe we won't. But if the club is going to make a decision to chop and change at the first real trough then it would be about the only thing that would seriously make me think about jumping off the wagon.

Losses I can stomach. Even the rubbish football we've been served up for the past month I can stand. Short term panic I can't.

[Red@WhiteBaron]

Originally posted by liz
Er...wouldn't that be the football department that produced the very exciting style of football you desire just 2 years ago?

True Liz, however cast your eyes over the coaching staff of 2003 and tell me whether it's the same list that we have at the moment.

[Red@WhiteBaron]

Originally posted by liz
Losses I can stomach. Even the rubbish football we've been served up for the past month I can stand.

Is this the general attitude up in Sydney when opposition teams run circles around us?

[Red@WhiteBaron]

Originally posted by Nolie
Obviously the "rot" has been there for 72 years.

Sorry Nolie, but that sounds a bit like "it's always been done like that".

[liz]

Originally posted by Red@WhiteBaron
True Liz, however cast your eyes over the coaching staff of 2003 and tell me whether it's the same list that we have at the moment.

Are you trying to suggest that regaining Malaxos is the answer to the Swans' woes?

That's the only real change.

Unless, of course, you reckon that getting PK back as runner will make all the difference.

[liz]

Originally posted by Red@WhiteBaron
Is this the general attitude up in Sydney when opposition teams run circles around us?

What do you want us to do? Jump off the wagon now because we've lost a few games and are playing bad football. Isn't that exactly the attitude that gains Sydney fans a bad reputation.

Or stand at the race at the next home game and shout obsenities at the team as they come onto the ground?

Or maybe I should round up a couple of mates and a stray dog and organise a march on Driver Avenue to protest at the performance of the team?

Stomaching something and liking it aren't exactly the same thing but short of applying for the coaching job myself there's not a whole amount I can do about it other than sticking in there.

[Red@WhiteBaron]

Originally posted by liz
Are you trying to suggest that regaining Malaxos is the answer to the Swans' woes?

That's the only real change.

Unless, of course, you reckon that getting PK back as runner will make all the difference.

I don't think that Malaxos was the sole factor, but he has a great football brain and certainly in my opinion he was very good.

As for the latter - surely with the advancement of medical technology we'd have a team of docs cloning Kel.

[Red@WhiteBaron]

Originally posted by liz
Or maybe I should round up a couple of mates and a stray dog and organise a march on Driver Avenue to protest at the performance of the team?

There's certainly nothing wrong with that, power to the people!

As for the dog, if he's intelligent enough to join in a protest and wave a placard then perhaps he's also intelligent enough to sit in the coaches box and help out.

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by Margie
F...head, why don't you go for the job, mate? You're like a boring bloody broken record. Normally don't even read your illiterate rantings, but tolerance levels are low tonight!

Just like mine when we had these utter lowlife E-Girls ferals taunting and abusing us to such an extent that myself and Port1978 nearly felt like punching em.

Eagles supporters are the worst I have seen. Mega drunk, mega oafish, and mega unfair. I mean, a whole pub seeing us walking down the street, then all tapping and banging the windows to give it to us. The drunken bums nearly broke the windows, I swear.

I bet their fans didn't cop the treatment we copped tonight after the match when they lost in the finals last year.

JF (who has several saturated banners and flags in my possession tonight, the trip home will em will be a blast. )

[Red@WhiteBaron]

Originally posted by liz
Jump off the wagon now because we've lost a few games and are playing bad football.

I certainly wouldn't call it jumping off the wagon. Instead think of it as taking the rackety old wagon in for repairs.

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Re: Re: Colless has to go

Originally posted by Damien
Well if Roos does end up failing - perhaps the minority of fans claiming they influenced the decision to hire him could step aside........

Damien, is making comments like that horribly constructive mate?

I saw Roos as a breath of fresh air in the way we were approaching our football at the time.

I don't now, and feel highly concerned about the way are progressing with the team. I see little future for the team as well if they continue to be coached in such a manor.

But then how were we were to know that things would turn out like they are?

Had I been in the same position back in the "Choose Roos" days I would more than likely have given my support for Roos as I eventually did.

Having said that, you do have to start wondering what things would have been like under Wallace?

Making cheap shots at people wanting to publically show support for their position is not on as far as I'm concerned.

And yes, you HAVE struck a rather raw nerve here tonight.

JF

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by liz
Or maybe I should round up a couple of mates and a stray dog and organise a march on Driver Avenue to protest at the performance of the team?

No, but supporters can always put their opinion in writing by making a sign that they can hold up at a home match.

If somebody made a "We're fed up with ugly football!" banner, it would not only get huge media attention, but would put pressure on the football department to actually do something about the time of football the team is playing at the moment.

I couldn't be involved in something like this officially because at least in theory I'm supposed to be an official supporter of the club. However I think it is time members started expressing their opinion. If you are NOT happy with the type of football we are playing, make a banner and hold it up at the SCG so that the worlds knows your feelings.

JF

[liz]

Re: Re: Re: Colless has to go

Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG

Having said that, you do have to start wondering what things would have been like under Wallace?



JF

No you don't. You just have to watch Richmond play, or listen to him drone on on WLF once a week.

It will have to get a whole lot worse than it currently is before I start wishing we had Wallace as coach.