2025 List Management

[Thunder Shaker]

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan currently has a bad working relationship with the Western Bulldogs and is likely to be playing elsewhere next year. While my views on recruiting a player with a questionable commitment to training are lukewarm at best, I have noticed something. Ugle-Hagan was photographed about two months ago sitting next to Zippy Fish (Sydney 2024 AFLW recruit): I think it was at the Fremantle-All Stars game in February.

Perhaps he's thinking of a move north at the end of this year? Brisbane and Sydney have been linked to him.

[UUaswan]

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan currently has a bad working relationship with the Western Bulldogs and is likely to be playing elsewhere next year. While my views on recruiting a player with a questionable commitment to training are lukewarm at best, I have noticed something. Ugle-Hagan was photographed about two months ago sitting next to Zippy Fish (Sydney 2024 AFLW recruit): I think it was at the Fremantle-All Stars game in February.

Perhaps he's thinking of a move north at the end of this year? Brisbane and Sydney have been linked to him.

Bad working relationship is a very nice way to say it.

I'd say the Bullies are furious that the bloke that cost them 6 picks, probably on north if 800k looking for mid mils, cbf being an actual footballer.

Nothing good about it, would still cost much more than a 1st rounder and big dollars, despite all the baggage.

[Dow]

Just on the Chad, is it right to say that he has extended and will be a Restricted Free Agent ?

As in we could match a bid and force a Trade ?

How I understand it

[Dow]

also interesting what we do with the 16 players left with contracts expiring this yr ,8 of who are rookies and i am not sure if they can continue as rookies. listed players include Cleary, fox , Ladhams (assume extn as green not ready yet, Lloyd assume extn perhaps 2 yrs, Mitchel maybe delisting, ramps (assume 1 yr), Sheldrick (needs to improve , and Wicks (2 yr extn playing ok) Comments anyone

I think Ladhams will be playing elsewhere next year he’d be crazy to stay but I hope he does sign a 1 or 2 year extension, Ramps need to retire one of my fav all time swans but it’s time, Wicks definitely 2 years extension Lloyd, Fox, 1 year extension and Mitchell/Sheldrick delist

[imuninformedtwo]

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan currently has a bad working relationship with the Western Bulldogs and is likely to be playing elsewhere next year. While my views on recruiting a player with a questionable commitment to training are lukewarm at best, I have noticed something. Ugle-Hagan was photographed about two months ago sitting next to Zippy Fish (Sydney 2024 AFLW recruit): I think it was at the Fremantle-All Stars game in February.

Perhaps he's thinking of a move north at the end of this year? Brisbane and Sydney have been linked to him.

Don’t believe a thing about any club being interested in him right now. They’re not. In fact, unless something changes radically, he won’t be playing AFL next year.

When the AFL asked Buddy and Eddie Betts to lend a hand, he waved them off. The club and AFL are at the point of trying to void his contract (which will require a fight with the AFLPA and a settlement).

Whatever the origins of it all or any mental health issues involved, it’s got way past that. He’s off the rails, showing no interest in playing AFL, and he’s likely to soon find no one wants a piece of him either.

[SwanSand]

Don’t believe a thing about any club being interested in him right now. They’re not. In fact, unless something changes radically, he won’t be playing AFL next year.

When the AFL asked Buddy and Eddie Betts to lend a hand, he waved them off. The club and AFL are at the point of trying to void his contract (which will require a fight with the AFLPA and a settlement).

Whatever the origins of it all or any mental health issues involved, it’s got way past that. He’s off the rails, showing no interest in playing AFL, and he’s likely to soon find no one wants a piece of him either.

Same was said of Jesse Hogan.
I reckon it’s worth a look. If he is desperate to go back to the afl list and can’t stand the bulldogs hierarchy, probably playing second fiddle to Aaron naughton and Sam Darcy, he maybe gettable and worth the risk. The only thing is the price. Draft picks - I care less of our first rounders - we have been terrible at them except academy boys and Logan McDonald. We should however not lose a player and not pay too much money to him u less he proves himself. But by all accounts he will head to Brisbane.

[UUaswan]

Same was said of Jesse Hogan.
I reckon it’s worth a look. If he is desperate to go back to the afl list and can’t stand the bulldogs hierarchy, probably playing second fiddle to Aaron naughton and Sam Darcy, he maybe gettable and worth the risk. The only thing is the price. Draft picks - I care less of our first rounders - we have been terrible at them except academy boys and Logan McDonald. We should however not lose a player and not pay too much money to him u less he proves himself. But by all accounts he will head to Brisbane.

All depends which Jesse Hogn your talking about ?

The one that GWS took a risk with for a 3rd Round Pick and ended up winning a Coleman 4yrs after the trade

Or the one Freo took a risk with for a 1st and 2nd round pick that kicked 18goals in 2yrs

I think JUH is still too young and stupid

[imuninformedtwo]

Same was said of Jesse Hogan.
I reckon it’s worth a look. If he is desperate to go back to the afl list and can’t stand the bulldogs hierarchy, probably playing second fiddle to Aaron naughton and Sam Darcy, he maybe gettable and worth the risk. The only thing is the price. Draft picks - I care less of our first rounders - we have been terrible at them except academy boys and Logan McDonald. We should however not lose a player and not pay too much money to him u less he proves himself. But by all accounts he will head to Brisbane.

Trust me, it’s nothing like Jesse Hogan’s situation. Jesse had some mental health issues. The situation with JUH has gotten well beyond that and he’s actively refusing help. I’m not here to bury the guy but it’s a sad fact that he’s throwing his career down the toilet.

[imuninformedtwo]

Kinnear Beatson gets some justified crap and has acknowledged he got wrong the Stephens v Serong pick. But his other stinker in his latter years was Kostanty, when Darcy Jones was sitting there one pick later. He’s become such a damaging player, watching the GWS match tonight. KB got a lot right over the years, but those two . . . Yuck.

[SwanSand]

Maybe our development also has an issue when we can’t develop a contested beast. Look at Freijah at Bulldogs. Taken at draft pick 45 in 2023 as a wingman. Now plays as midfielder - played 20 games till now. And against Giants last night had 19 contested possessions against the giants midfield bulls including Tom green.

[Thunder Shaker]

Kinnear Beatson gets some justified crap and has acknowledged he got wrong the Stephens v Serong pick. But his other stinker in his latter years was Kostanty, when Darcy Jones was sitting there one pick later. He’s become such a damaging player, watching the GWS match tonight. KB got a lot right over the years, but those two . . . Yuck.

Sydney's first round picks have been notoriously bad for decades. So many of them have not played 50 games for the club for various reasons, with dud picks and go-home factor being the main reasons for not reaching 50 club games.

One thing that has made our first-round picks look terrible is that so few of them have been a top-10 pick in the past 30 years. A typical draft will have a few very good prospects and then the picks become more speculative. This is why the points value for draft picks tapers off so quickly: pick 11 this year is worth 1205 points, or 40% of the value of pick 1. Sydney has picked most first-round picks after pick 10, which puts them firmly in the speculative zone.

Top-10 picks, 1995-2024:
1995 8 Crouch (223 games)
1996 4 Kinnear (6 club games)
1998 3 Fosdike (164 games)
1998 4 Fitzgerald (10 club games)
1998 8 Bolton (retired after 325 games)
2002 5 McVeigh (retired after 325 games)
2009 6 Rohan (traded to Geelong)
2015 3 Mills (A)
2018 10 Blakey (A)
2019 5 Stephens (traded to North Melbourne)
2020 4 McDonald
2020 5 Campbell (A)

12 top-10 picks in 30 years, three of them played 200 games or more. Three Academy players, nine from the open draft.

Drafts without a first-round pick: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2004, 2005.

[Roadrunner]

Maybe our development also has an issue when we can’t develop a contested beast. Look at Freijah at Bulldogs. Taken at draft pick 45 in 2023 as a wingman. Now plays as midfielder - played 20 games till now. And against Giants last night had 19 contested possessions against the giants midfield bulls including Tom green.

Hate to say it but the Fairypups have an excellent squad, built over several years. Our most successful draft picks have been second and third rounders, other than our Academy picks. After Josh Kennedy, we haven’t had a tough midfielder- Rowy has been great for us but hasn’t the size though he is our best tackler. We need a midfield bull for sure!

[Nico]

Hate to say it but the Fairypups have an excellent squad, built over several years. Our most successful draft picks have been second and third rounders, other than our Academy picks. After Josh Kennedy, we haven’t had a tough midfielder- Rowy has been great for us but hasn’t the size though he is our best tackler. We need a midfield bull for sure!

Will Ben King from the academy be that bull?

[Nico]

Maybe our development also has an issue when we can’t develop a contested beast. Look at Freijah at Bulldogs. Taken at draft pick 45 in 2023 as a wingman. Now plays as midfielder - played 20 games till now. And against Giants last night had 19 contested possessions against the giants midfield bulls including Tom green.

We need to put Blakey in the midfield. Someone who can get the footy and run. He would be so damaging. But our coaches don't have the imagination to do this. "Thinking out of the square. What's that mean".

[Roadrunner]

We need to put Blakey in the midfield. Someone who can get the footy and run. He would be so damaging. But our coaches don't have the imagination to do this. "Thinking out of the square. What's that mean".

When we lose momentum and the opposition kick multiple goals, you’re spot on Nico- we have to do something to halt procedures and get the game back on our terms. Putting the Lizard in the guts is certainly a move that could help and we have nothing to lose! When the opponent gets a run on, we have to try something and not just react like stunned mullets!