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  • Nico
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 11376

    You just wonder how the Curnow trade will get done. I can't see that we give up our first round pick, given that Max King and Kyle both performed in the top 10 at the Draft Combine. We have to support the Academy and would be very disappointed if they went for short term gain. King is a key forward and Kyle a key back and boy do we need a key back. The lad has come from the clouds and it will be interesting to see if Kyle zooms up the charts.
    http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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    • UUaswan
      Regular in the Side
      • Sep 2024
      • 805

      Originally posted by Nico
      You just wonder how the Curnow trade will get done. I can't see that we give up our first round pick, given that Max King and Kyle both performed in the top 10 at the Draft Combine. We have to support the Academy and would be very disappointed if they went for short term gain. King is a key forward and Kyle a key back and boy do we need a key back. The lad has come from the clouds and it will be interesting to see if Kyle zooms up the charts.
      I agree we need to land our Academy Kids, especially in a "poor" draft. The last thing we need our recruiters to do is select a 1st rounder.

      Could be games but interesting to read we werent happy with Buller leaving, we may well get a 2nd rounder for him ???
      The good thing with that trade is that West Coast will have 1st pick in the pre season draft which should stop the Pies playing silly buggers, especially after losing Mihocek

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      • lwjoyner
        Senior Player
        • Nov 2004
        • 1020

        lets forget about Curnow, he would be nice but people forget what we did in 2024 finishing on top of ladder and except got as dismal GF performance beat most other teams. So I am not sure if the guys on fox Trading day revfiew last night are correct we need curnow particularly Montania. Keep ou points and go for say Blake Thredgold, like what I reas. Tall lock down defender,lastest Cal Twomey rating 28.
        Also maybe 62 for serong was a # 62 oick when drafted. Finally let tellthe Pies its their pick 38 for BBuller or into the pre season draft he goes and probably accross the Nullabor again to the West Coast.

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        • KSAS
          Senior Player
          • Mar 2018
          • 1881

          Apparently Carlton will see our 2026 1st rounder as being crucial in any Curnow trade, considering they will need it under the new rules to match bid for F/S Cody Walker, who is expected to go pick 2 or 3 next year at this early stage.

          Taking into account what it might take to match bids for our desired Academy boys in the event of landing Curnow with our 2 x 1st rounders, getting maximum for Buller will now be crucial (Pies pick 38).

          Will we be happy if we end up landing Curnow, Rosas, Jai Serong and matching bids for our Academy boys but losing Buller and a quality player lIke a Florent?

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          • Dow
            Regular in the Side
            • Sep 2022
            • 923

            Originally posted by KSAS
            Apparently Carlton will see our 2026 1st rounder as being crucial in any Curnow trade, considering they will need it under the new rules to match bid for F/S Cody Walker, who is expected to go pick 2 or 3 next year at this early stage.

            Taking into account what it might take to match bids for our desired Academy boys in the event of landing Curnow with our 2 x 1st rounders, getting maximum for Buller will now be crucial (Pies pick 38).

            Will we be happy if we end up landing Curnow, Rosas, Jai Serong and matching bids for our Academy boys but losing Buller and a quality player lIke a Florent?
            I believe your right Cody Walker is the real prize here and they know it, I still pray Geelong come from the clouds to get Curnow as I reckon this will be our Tim Kelly moment when we look back

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            • Thunder Shaker
              Aut vincere aut mori
              • Apr 2004
              • 4361

              Originally posted by lwjoyner
              lets forget about Curnow, he would be nice but people forget what we did in 2024 finishing on top of ladder and except got as dismal GF performance beat most other teams. So I am not sure if the guys on fox Trading day revfiew last night are correct we need curnow particularly Montania.
              I think Curnow's got maybe 50 good games left in him due to his injury history. The only real benefit I see is that Curnow would fill an experience gap.

              Originally posted by lwjoyner
              Keep ou points and go for say Blake Thredgold, like what I reas. Tall lock down defender,lastest Cal Twomey rating 28.
              I had to look that player up, as I wasn't familiar with players in that list below King at 23. He would be an interesting choice. He kept Mitch Marsh (14th) goalless in a Grand Final, and key defenders are at a premium right now with the monster 200cm forwards running around these days.

              Originally posted by lwjoyner
              Also maybe 62 for serong was a # 62 oick when drafted. Finally let tellthe Pies its their pick 38 for BBuller or into the pre season draft he goes and probably accross the Nullabor again to the West Coast.
              Pick 38 for Buller, or we could try to get a future first out of Collingwood and send a future second-round pick back. Two future first-round picks would be handy.

              Pick 62 for Serong sounds about right, though I expect Hawthorn may want a bit more. Sydney had a reason for wanting pick 62 from the Suns and the Serong trade could be it. I was talking with a Hawthorn fan yesterday and he rated Serong as the fringe Hawthorn defender he least liked to lose in a trade.
              "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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              • UUaswan
                Regular in the Side
                • Sep 2024
                • 805

                Just saw how Carltons TDK compo (8) gets allocated behind the pick that Carlton traded to Hawks (7)

                They need to scrap the compo altogether or only put them at the end of rounds

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                • lwjoyner
                  Senior Player
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 1020

                  NO [players for Curnow As i have said in an earlier post forget him.

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                  • imuninformedtwo
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Aug 2024
                    • 590

                    And on our favourite topic, Geelong got busted cheating the rules on third party payments, in some cases tried to hide it, but get a small fine. The AFL is beyond parody.

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                    • Auntie.Gerald
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6501

                      I personally think there is massive upside to a fit and firing Curnow

                      the ability to lock it in with entries and minimise dangerous rebound from the opposition with a player like Curnow on the lead is a very important component of an elite team

                      as we all know this enables us to really set up our defence to mitigate exits which tend to be less frantic and more predictable - which keeps the pressure on the opposition and forces mistakes to capitalise on

                      given most of us know that creative rebound from forced exits is a match winning outlier of a stat ie Richmond’s game plan for a few premierships

                      the ability of Curnow kicking a stack of goals and applying scoreboard pressure especially on the SCG that suits a long on the run kicker that is deadly

                      the ability to bring other weapons into the game like Gulden, Paps etc

                      the pressure release for Amartey and Logan to contest marks vs 2nd and 3rd pick tall defenders

                      for me this is a trade that would genuinely put us back in the top 4 and dangerous

                      Curnow age lines up with Paps, Heeney and Mills and a few others as senior players on a mission before returning in a few years etc

                      for me that is an obvious window strategy that almost always requires a bit of an X factor tall to be part of the formulae
                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • BRS328
                        Warming the Bench
                        • Feb 2018
                        • 401

                        Originally posted by KSAS
                        Apparently Carlton will see our 2026 1st rounder as being crucial in any Curnow trade, considering they will need it under the new rules to match bid for F/S Cody Walker, who is expected to go pick 2 or 3 next year at this early stage.

                        Taking into account what it might take to match bids for our desired Academy boys in the event of landing Curnow with our 2 x 1st rounders, getting maximum for Buller will now be crucial (Pies pick 38).

                        Will we be happy if we end up landing Curnow, Rosas, Jai Serong and matching bids for our Academy boys but losing Buller and a quality player lIke a Florent?
                        My simple answer is Yes.
                        The Buller situation is not as easy as it may appear. The Swans could play hardball and force Collingwoods hand by threatening to delist him if they do not come up with a reasonable deal. Collingwood do not have a lot of draft capital to work with.

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                        • stevoswan
                          Veterans List
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 8603

                          Originally posted by imuninformedtwo
                          And on our favourite topic, Geelong got busted cheating the rules on third party payments, in some cases tried to hide it, but get a small fine. The AFL is beyond parody.

                          https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/geelo...hes-c-20276178
                          Yes, the headline says 'monster fine'.....well, it's a 'monster fine' that the Cats will laugh at.

                          "Geelong have been hit with a $77,500 fine and face more stringent AFL scrutiny after an investigation into their controversial third-party deals.

                          The Cats have accepted the penalty, with $40,000 of the fine suspended for two years.

                          The AFL did an extended audit of the club, from 2019-24, after an initial audit last year. The extended audit covered total player payments and the football department soft cap."


                          https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/football/cats-fined-for-third-party-deals-after-afl-audit/ar-AA1O3pFE?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=68e604d6116140 3bb6d2b897581a492a&ei=29

                          Seriously, in what amounts to a $37,500 fine, it's actually beyond pathetic.
                          Last edited by stevoswan; 8 October 2025, 04:54 PM.

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                          • imuninformedtwo
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Aug 2024
                            • 590

                            Originally posted by stevoswan

                            Yes, the headline says 'monster fine'.....well, it's a 'monster fine' that the Cats will laugh at.

                            "Geelong have been hit with a $77,500 fine and face more stringent AFL scrutiny after an investigation into their controversial third-party deals.

                            The Cats have accepted the penalty, with $40,000 of the fine suspended for two years.

                            The AFL did an extended audit of the club, from 2019-24, after an initial audit last year. The extended audit covered total player payments and the football department soft cap."


                            https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/football/cats-fined-for-third-party-deals-after-afl-audit/ar-AA1O3pFE?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=68e604d6116140 3bb6d2b897581a492a&ei=29

                            Seriously, in what amounts to a $37,500 fine, it's actually beyond pathetic.
                            Isn’t it what. What’s fascinating is the AFL chose not to disclose how Geelong rorted the system. They’ve just gone with the “trust us and them” line.

                            And I can be trusted with two bottles of wine on a Friday night.

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                            • imuninformedtwo
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Aug 2024
                              • 590

                              And isn’t it funny how they keep having the same ‘accident’.

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                              • lwjoyner
                                Senior Player
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 1020

                                interesting Gerard healy comments on trade show last nioght. Strong NO to Curnow which might cause rift in swans playing list if 1 or 2 player "forced" to be part of the deal and an even stronger no re Buller, to the DRAFT

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