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  • Triple B
    Formerly 'BBB'
    • Feb 2003
    • 6999

    Originally posted by NMWBloods
    There is little point to hanging onto players for sentimental reasons if that will drag the team down.
    There's the bottom line, right there.
    Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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    • Ludwig
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 9359

      Out of all the possibilities of players to trade, Jude Bolton is the most logical choice to be traded. Despite his unquestioned dedication the the R & W, his shelf life at the Swans is ready to expire.

      By all accounts, especially reading a bit between the lines, Roos plans to transform the Swans into a quick ball movement team, like Geelong. Geelong have shown that if you execute that plan, you can dominate in the AFL.

      If the new game plan is to copy Geelong, then we just have too many inside midfielders at present. Kirk, Buchanan and Schmidt can do the job, plus we have Moore and Bird seemingly best suited for that job as well. Bolton is best suited to a game with a lot of stoppages.

      This move to unload Bolton was somewhat foreshadowed during the season when Bolton was tried out as a half forward, but failed dismally. He just doesn't kick well enough to hold down that position. It is hard to see Bolton holding his spot beyond next year in any case, so for perhaps one more year of having him on the team only to prove that he is not cut out for a quick ball movement game, seems a bit wasteful.

      If I were Roos, I would be looking to trade Bolton plus our #44 pick for a first round pick, then we would get 2 first round picks, Craig Bird on the 4th rounder, Brendan Murphy and Martin Mattner, and lose only Jude who at this point in time is only holding up the progress of a younger player. I would call that a very successful off season list management exercise, giving every hope for another good period for the Swannies.

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      • bennyfrou
        On the Rookie List
        • Jul 2006
        • 327

        Originally posted by Ludwig
        Out of all the possibilities of players to trade, Jude Bolton is the most logical choice to be traded. Despite his unquestioned dedication the the R & W, his shelf life at the Swans is ready to expire.

        By all accounts, especially reading a bit between the lines, Roos plans to transform the Swans into a quick ball movement team, like Geelong. Geelong have shown that if you execute that plan, you can dominate in the AFL.

        If the new game plan is to copy Geelong, then we just have too many inside midfielders at present. Kirk, Buchanan and Schmidt can do the job, plus we have Moore and Bird seemingly best suited for that job as well. Bolton is best suited to a game with a lot of stoppages.

        This move to unload Bolton was somewhat foreshadowed during the season when Bolton was tried out as a half forward, but failed dismally. He just doesn't kick well enough to hold down that position. It is hard to see Bolton holding his spot beyond next year in any case, so for perhaps one more year of having him on the team only to prove that he is not cut out for a quick ball movement game, seems a bit wasteful.

        If I were Roos, I would be looking to trade Bolton plus our #44 pick for a first round pick, then we would get 2 first round picks, Craig Bird on the 4th rounder, Brendan Murphy and Martin Mattner, and lose only Jude who at this point in time is only holding up the progress of a younger player. I would call that a very successful off season list management exercise, giving every hope for another good period for the Swannies.
        Agreed and well said.

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        • Sanecow
          Suspended by the MRP
          • Mar 2003
          • 6917

          Originally posted by Ludwig
          If the new game plan is to copy Geelong...
          I wouldn't be anticipating that.

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          • Ludwig
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 9359

            A further note: Since we can take Bird on our 3rd pick, we should do everything possible to get rid of our round 3 and 4 picks (thus taking Bird on round 5), since they are useless to us as it seems unlikely that we can delist enough players to afford to take more than 3 players in the regular draft.

            If it were possible, I would try to trade Bolton, Doyle, and both 3rd and 4th round picks for the highest pick we can get, hopefully a solid first rounder.

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              Originally posted by Sanecow
              I wouldn't be anticipating that.
              I am not sure that we can succeed at a quick ball movement game, but I am fairly certain that we will be trying. If you read closely what Roos is saying, he also thinks it is the way to go, ergo, we acquired Mattner. And the offering of Jude is more than just another clue.

              No point in having Mattner in a team that is looking to lock down the game.

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              • Plugger46
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2003
                • 3674

                Originally posted by NMWBloods
                There is little point to hanging onto players for sentimental reasons if that will drag the team down.
                Agreed. The fact that they're premiership players for the club means they'll be remembered anyway.
                Bloods

                "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                • goswannie14
                  Leadership Group
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 11166

                  Originally posted by NMWBloods
                  If the team gets better I wouldn't care who we traded. I'd happily swap the whole team for Geelong's if we won a premiership.
                  I'm with you 100% on that one Bloods.
                  Does God believe in Atheists?

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                  • Sanecow
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 6917

                    You guys are mental.

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                    • swantastic
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 7275

                      Originally posted by Sanecow
                      You guys are mental.
                      Yeh what he said
                      Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                      • swantastic
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 7275

                        Swans for sale,yeh right
                        Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                        • AnnieH
                          RWOs Black Sheep
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 11332

                          I think the three of them are worth a whole lot more this year as trade bait, than they will be next year or the year after.

                          Sure we'll miss them, and they have been a bit "stale" this year, but it's to the teams advantage that they take the opportunity now and get a decent trade.
                          Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                          Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                          • Zlatorog
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 1748

                            Originally posted by Plugger46
                            Could not agree more.

                            We can't live off 2005 forever.
                            He, he. Perhaps another 72 years

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                            • royboy42
                              Senior Player
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 2078

                              Originally posted by Ludwig
                              I am not sure that we can succeed at a quick ball movement game, but I am fairly certain that we will be trying. If you read closely what Roos is saying, he also thinks it is the way to go, ergo, we acquired Mattner. And the offering of Jude is more than just another clue.

                              No point in having Mattner in a team that is looking to lock down the game.
                              Traditionally other teams copy the style of the premiers' play..especially if it differs a lot from previous years (note how our close checking, shut down, tempo style became the rage for a while till others were playing it better than we were.) So it would not surprise me in the least if we, and others imitated the obviously successful style of the cats.
                              Now if that is accurate I'm not surprised at the acquisition of Mattner, who has great pace or the offering up of Scneids or Bolton, who both, particularly Bolton are getting left behind by the pace of the game.
                              If Roos wants a Geelong type team, pace and more pace is necessary!

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                              • NMWBloods
                                Taking Refuge!!
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 15819

                                Originally posted by Annie Haddad
                                I think the three of them are worth a whole lot more this year as trade bait, than they will be next year or the year after.

                                Sure we'll miss them, and they have been a bit "stale" this year, but it's to the teams advantage that they take the opportunity now and get a decent trade.
                                Definitely. J Bolton will be worth stuff all the following year. The other two need to have really good years otherwise they may drop a little too.
                                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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