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  • cruiser
    What the frack!
    • Jul 2004
    • 6114

    #61
    Originally posted by Chow-Chicker
    If only it were that simple. The guy is addicted. And unless he comes to terms with that and commits himself to beating the addiction, he will be a lost soul. It isn't a matter of which city he resides. It isn't a matter of which football team he plays for. He requires a long rehabilitation process, and he has got to have the will to do it.
    I'm not actually convinced that Cousins is addicted to drugs and I think that supposed 'addiction' is offered as a means of partially excusing or at least explaining his behaviour. Rather, I think that he is addicted to a partying lifestyle and celebrity image, which appeals to him greatly. Unless he has a serious meth amphetamine addiction, I doubt that his health or life is in much danger. Rather it's his reputation and sporting career that are in danger.
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    • hammo
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2003
      • 5554

      #62
      Originally posted by Chow-Chicker
      And you could very well be right, And hopefully you are. But for me to be convinced that Ben Cousins is heading on the right path (rather than hope), I think I need to hear or see evidence that he has accepted that he has an addiction / problem and is determined to allow professional people to help him back to a clean and healthy lifestyle. He's still in denial.
      How do you know he hasn't admitted his addiction to his family, friends, teammates and club.

      There's no requirement to admit it to the nation. That's an unreasonable standard that no other drug addict would ever be held to.

      The fact he's completed rehab once and is about to do another stint would seem a pretty good sign to me that he knows he has a problem.

      He may be a lot further down the road of recovery than what has been speculated. It sounds like no-one outside his family really knows.
      "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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      • robamiee
        Regular in the Side
        • Sep 2005
        • 688

        #63
        As most professionals will say, any addict going through rehab will re-lapse, Cousins at probably the most difficult time through a rehab pursuit lost his close friend in Chris Mainwaring, which may not have helped.
        (Not excusing the guy, wife and i cant stand the weagles), however living in Perth knowing how the players are portrayed here, Cousins has gotten himself surrounded by unsavory characters and cannot find a way out over here. If he wants to commit to rehab himself, which he seems to, and then commit to football, his only best place is either Sydney or Brisbane.
        The best place for him would be Sydney, Brisbane has a history of letting players do what they want (Aker).

        Would i want Cousins at my club, i guess the answer would be if he commits to the rehab and then to football, with terms in his contract about who he socialises or is seen with, then i would take him into the fold.
        You would be mad not to ask the ? of a player of his capabilities.
        I beleieve our strong leadership group would keep him in the fold as well it would probably be in his best interests of his health, if football was to be a priority in his life.


        Sorry if i am making sense out there to the rest of you...ahahaha

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        • AnnieH
          RWOs Black Sheep
          • Aug 2006
          • 11332

          #64
          Originally posted by robamiee
          snip ...


          Sorry if i am making sense out there to the rest of you...ahahaha
          That's ok ... you're not!!
          Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
          Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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          • Chow-Chicker
            Senior Player
            • Jun 2006
            • 1602

            #65
            Originally posted by hammo
            How do you know he hasn't admitted his addiction to his family, friends, teammates and club.
            I'm not saying he hasn't done that. But he has denied to the media that he has a problem.

            Originally posted by hammo
            There's no requirement to admit it to the nation. That's an unreasonable standard that no other drug addict would ever be held to.
            It's also unreasonable that no other drug addict is able to be sent to rehabilitation at Malibu on their employers money. When the media was reporting on the problems he has caused out in public, that is affecting the reputation of his club and the league. If he wanted this attention to stop, he would admit his problem to the media, apologise, and pledge his commitment to rectify the damage caused and beat his addiction. Because he hasn't, the media will continue to hound him - which they have, and that has ultimately lead to his sacking from his club and banishment from the game. The duty of care in which you were harping about was also neglected from his part to his club, the league and its sponsors.

            Originally posted by hammo
            The fact he's completed rehab once and is about to do another stint would seem a pretty good sign to me that he knows he has a problem.
            If it was initiated from himself and that he was paying for it out of his own pocket (which he can obviously afford), then I would believe it. At the moment, he is being "sent".

            Originally posted by hammo
            He may be a lot further down the road of recovery than what has been speculated. It sounds like no-one outside his family really knows.
            And this could be true. I hope so.

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            • stellation
              scott names the planets
              • Sep 2003
              • 9723

              #66
              So I guess we are all in agreement that we should pick him up in the PSD if he is available then. I'll let Kirky know.
              I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
              We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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              • Chow-Chicker
                Senior Player
                • Jun 2006
                • 1602

                #67
                Originally posted by stellation
                So I guess we are all in agreement that we should pick him up in the PSD if he is available then. I'll let Kirky know.
                At this stage, I'm a no.

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                • stellation
                  scott names the planets
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 9723

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Chow-Chicker
                  At this stage, I'm a no.
                  I'll let Kirky know, but he won't be happy.
                  I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                  We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                  • Chow-Chicker
                    Senior Player
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 1602

                    #69
                    Originally posted by stellation
                    I'll let Kirky know, but he won't be happy.
                    That's OK. Just make sure you tell him to run any decision by me first.

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                    • doctor swan
                      On the Rookie List
                      • May 2007
                      • 266

                      #70
                      if the dickheadedness is knocked out of him i have no issues in seeing ben cousins wearing the red and white. he is after all a brilliant footballer.

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                      • RED RAG
                        Go the Bloods !
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 56

                        #71
                        Originally posted by doctor swan
                        if the dickheadedness is knocked out of him i have no issues in seeing ben cousins wearing the red and white. he is after all a brilliant footballer.
                        Forget Beennnny. He's gone. In 6 months time nobody ( except his family ) will give a @@@@ whats happened to BC.
                        Last edited by goswannie14; 20 October 2007, 09:11 AM. Reason: deliberately avoiding swear filter, please do not try to avoid it.
                        RED RAG

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                        • stellation
                          scott names the planets
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 9723

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Chow-Chicker
                          That's OK. Just make sure you tell him to run any decision by me first.
                          The thing that dissapoints me is that Kirky knows that he should do that, just like every other member of the leadership group, but consistently fails to do it. When I watch games I sometimes wonder if Benny is the only one who is paying attention and looking around to get instructions from you every time he gets the ball!
                          I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                          We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                          • liz
                            Veteran
                            Site Admin
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 16786

                            #73
                            Originally posted by stellation
                            So I guess we are all in agreement that we should pick him up in the PSD if he is available then. I'll let Kirky know.
                            Dunno about that. Can he tag?

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                            • Chow-Chicker
                              Senior Player
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 1602

                              #74
                              Originally posted by stellation
                              The thing that dissapoints me is that Kirky knows that he should do that, just like every other member of the leadership group, but consistently fails to do it. When I watch games I sometimes wonder if Benny is the only one who is paying attention and looking around to get instructions from you every time he gets the ball!
                              If only Roosy would let me in the coaches box!

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                              • stellation
                                scott names the planets
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 9723

                                #75
                                Originally posted by liz
                                Dunno about that. Can he tag?
                                hehehehehehehe
                                I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                                We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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