Jim Main Knocks RWO?

[cruiser]

I love the hypocrisy of the media questioning fan sites querying players being dropped or poor form of players or certain other things. This is the same media that makes a living out of such things, not to mention other unsavoury tabloid rubbish, such as chasing Cousins all over the world, speculating about drug usage, talking about brawls in pubs, etc.

Fan sites are there for the fans to make comments, in exactly the same way as they have done for over a century at work or in the pub or at home. They are not a place of worship where supporters faun all over the players and coach. Everyone is free to have their own opinion on every player and every coach and every game.

And someone needs to explain to the media what bloggers are!

I totally agree. The hypocracy in this article is astonishing. Reminds me why I dont buy Inside Football.

[ash3]

Criticising people who do things for charity and altruism to the betterment of others is in poor taste.

However, the notion that Swans players are Christ like figures, playing for selfless reasons, is wide of the mark.

They get paid a @@@@load of money to go out there, although I suspect most would do it for free.

They should not be deified and are not above public opinion or indeed, scorn. Having said that, what we write on here says so much more about US than it does about the players. That's why RWO is interesting.

Did I compare players to Christ? No

I think you have missed the point, criticism is one thing, and of course there is always going to be criticism of players because they are only human and are going to make mistakes.

What peeves me off, and the point I am trying to make is that people jump on here and call players "wankers" and the like need to have a good hard look at themselves. There is being critical of how a player is playing, and being damn rude to a person, who yes, is being paid "alot" of money to do what they do, but people give the opinion on these forums that the players are doing it on purpose. Give me a break.

I get paid alot to do what I do for a living, and yes I make mistakes in what I do every now and again as well. If someone I worked with called me a wanker they would get what staker got from hall.

[sidswan]

Certainly the players are paid well and seem to have a pretty enviable life, so its very easy for us fans to show our frustration when they make a clanger, but we have to remember that they really don't WANT to make a mistake, kick a point instead of a goal, etc etc !
I think fans forget (or didn't realise) that the players do read these sites (why wouldn't they?) and ARE hurt by some of the comments.

[reigning premier]

The knockers had been mercilessly critical of several players who have given the Swans out?@standing service over many years.
These ?boo boys? dished it out to Ben Mathews, Jared Crouch and Jude Bolton ? three premiership players.

Yep.... He's definitely talking about RWO...

[reigning premier]

Inside footy writing team:

COLUMNISTS

HOLMESBY
BURKE
SCHWARZ
RHYS-JONES
CRACKERS
CASANELIA
MAIN
CLEARY

Yep. There's a selection of gifted, well informed, up to date, educated, professional commentators....

[sharp9]

We had some feedback from Myles last year about RWO, he even made a point of naming a few of the posters he was impressed with, who showed a keen incite into the game/team.

Well........who were they, then? PM me if you're embarrassed about praising me in public!!!

[cruiser]

Yep.... He's definitely talking about RWO...

Sexist as well, assuming that everyone posting on RWO is male.

[Wardy]

Sexist as well, assuming that everyone posting on RWO is male.

Indeed!!!

[Old Royboy]

Yep.... He's definitely talking about RWO...

Can't be RWO, or he didn't read much. Bevo and LRT didn't even rate a mention.

[Legs Akimbo]

Did I compare players to Christ? No

I think you have missed the point, criticism is one thing, and of course there is always going to be criticism of players because they are only human and are going to make mistakes.

What peeves me off, and the point I am trying to make is that people jump on here and call players "wankers" and the like need to have a good hard look at themselves. There is being critical of how a player is playing, and being damn rude to a person, who yes, is being paid "alot" of money to do what they do, but people give the opinion on these forums that the players are doing it on purpose. Give me a break.

I get paid alot to do what I do for a living, and yes I make mistakes in what I do every now and again as well. If someone I worked with called me a wanker they would get what staker got from hall.

Fair enough, but who called a player a wanker? Not disputing someone did if you say so, but cannot recall it happening. Can remember, a whole lot of other names, but not wanker, which is slightly personal, insinuating as it does that the player is sexually frustrated and or a fibber.

Back on topic, the whole Inside Footy website is horrible to behold. No wonder Jim is frustrated by the internet.

[Frog]

I have tried to find out how to contact Mr Jim Main all day (since this was posted on RWO). If anyone has a contact address for Mr Jim Main that a sub-editor cannot glance over and delete (ie a direct e-mail address would be good), could you please PM me. Please don't plaster it all over the boards.

[RED RAG]

Don't decry Jim Main, he's the one that always puts in the good word for the Swans in Inside Football.

[liz]

I have tried to find out how to contact Mr Jim Main all day (since this was posted on RWO). If anyone has a contact address for Mr Jim Main that a sub-editor cannot glance over and delete (ie a direct e-mail address would be good), could you please PM me. Please don't plaster it all over the boards.

He has a letters column in the print version of IF and I know some of his mail comes via email (because he says when it does). I haven't bought the overpriced rag for several years now but I'm sure someone here must have a copy lying around somewhere.

[R&WtilIDie]

I tend to agree with most of what Jim said. When I first joined RWO, I almost didn't last a week here. Some of the crap written on here was just that, crap.

But then I realised there were actually some cluey posters on here, they just don't seem be the most vocal ones!

I agree with forums being alot like pub conversations. I've worked in pubs for 10 years. You could forget 90% of them and not be any worse off. There is only so much value you can put in the opinion of a fat drunk.

Liz, get yourself up to borders, grab a coffee and read Inside Football for free, like me!

[TheMase]

Certainly the players are paid well and seem to have a pretty enviable life, so its very easy for us fans to show our frustration when they make a clanger, but we have to remember that they really don't WANT to make a mistake, kick a point instead of a goal, etc etc !
I think fans forget (or didn't realise) that the players do read these sites (why wouldn't they?) and ARE hurt by some of the comments.

Of course they don't mean to make a mistake.

I see a football much like a chess game. Each team has 40 odd players to choose from which to make a squad of 22.

Fans get upset, not directly with the player necessarily, but the position they have been moved into on the chess board.

Some believe they should not be part of the 22 selected, others they were moved into the wrong position. Some are pawns that we all know try hard, but just don't cut the mustard. We get upset because the coach continues to play them in the side.

Very few posts are specifically about players (personally), they are about their movements and how we would like to see our side structured.
When I say "XXX had a poor game today", I often follow it up with why I believe this, and where their improvement is.

The majority of posters on this website offer insightful constructive criticism.

There are far worse places around than red and white online.