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  • ROK Lobster
    RWO Life Member
    • Aug 2004
    • 8658

    Originally posted by connolly
    There are other options. How about- a minimal grasp of contract employment law draws a conclusion that footballers who through their agents negotiate with opposition clubs and act in a dishonest way towards their employers, breach their contracts. From that conclusion, Brown's contract could be terminated if the Lions wished. The breach does not automatically terminate a contract. The Lions may waive their contractual rights and continue to employ him. Which they probably will. Is this getting too complicated. Given a previous statement from you which indicates you don't understand the relationship between libel, slander and defamation, it probably is.
    You do not seem to understand laws relating to remedy (at all). I hope you are not a lawyer/law student. If a PI insurer identifies you here, your premium will go through the roof.

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    • Bloody Hell
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2006
      • 3085

      YouTube - AFL - 2005 SF Sydney v Geelong SCG - Nick Davis' 4 Goals

      There is noone on the Swans list IMHO, besides Micky O, who is capable of such theatrics.

      If you can watch this link and feel no twitching of your heartstrings with the current situation - I question your fan status.

      Please note the jersey he is wearing.

      I also note that Davis kicked 4 final quarter goals in this game.

      In the following game Schnider kicked 4 final quarter goals.

      Is Roos following the 3rd Reich's lead and purging history...for the only "true" version?

      I believe Davis is still capable of similar performances demonstrated in the above link.




      P.S Love Blight's commentary early.
      The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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      • goswannie14
        Leadership Group
        • Sep 2005
        • 11166

        Sorry to be pedantic, but Schneider kicked 3 goals in the PF not 4. I love and agree wholeheartedly with the other comments though.
        Last edited by goswannie14; 26 July 2008, 08:30 AM. Reason: If I am going to be pedantic at least get the spelling right.
        Does God believe in Atheists?

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        • Bloody Hell
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2006
          • 3085

          Originally posted by goswannie14
          Sorry to be pedantic, but Schneider kicked 3 goals in the PF not 4. I love and agree wholeheartedly with the other comments though.
          I had a doubt, but thought it better to err on the high side.
          Last edited by goswannie14; 26 July 2008, 08:31 AM. Reason: See above editing comment.
          The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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          • connolly
            Registered User
            • Aug 2005
            • 2461

            Originally posted by Bloody Hell
            Where's the beef?

            You seem to be a very passionate supporter of the 'Bloods' variety - but lay the boot into Davis at every corner....did he make unwanted advances towards your daughter/relative??? are you yourself suffering a broken heart at the hands of the dark knight....did you hear through the grapevine that Davis slandered Paul "can't bowl, can't throw" Bevan in some way???...just trying to make some sense...
            Much more straight forward. i don't think he was committed when he played for us over the last two seasons. Nothing to do with Davis the person everything to do with Davis the footballer. Apparently even suggesting that Davis didn't try is akin to a heresy in the Inquisition. Stake burning, eye gouging and asinine posting.
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            • Jewels
              On the Rookie List
              • Oct 2006
              • 3258

              Originally posted by bedford
              somebody put a stop to this crap
              Originally posted by Claret

              Can threads like this one still be locked?
              PLEASE!!!!!!!

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              • goswannie14
                Leadership Group
                • Sep 2005
                • 11166

                Originally posted by Jewels
                PLEASE!!!!!!!
                If you don't like them don't read them. We don't need to censor threads because some people don't want to read them.

                But they're like a car crash, you just have to have a look.
                Does God believe in Atheists?

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                • Captain
                  Captain of the Side
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 3602

                  People on here have way too much time on their hands...

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                  • connolly
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 2461

                    Originally posted by Captain
                    People on here have way too much time on their hands...
                    Do mean posting comments about people who post comments. Maybe
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                    • magic.merkin
                      Senior Player
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1199

                      Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                      YouTube - AFL - 2005 SF Sydney v Geelong SCG - Nick Davis' 4 Goals

                      There is noone on the Swans list IMHO, besides Micky O, who is capable of such theatrics.

                      If you can watch this link and feel no twitching of your heartstrings with the current situation - I question your fan status.

                      Please note the jersey he is wearing.

                      I also note that Davis kicked 4 final quarter goals in this game.

                      In the following game Schnider kicked 4 final quarter goals.

                      Is Roos following the 3rd Reich's lead and purging history...for the only "true" version?

                      I believe Davis is still capable of similar performances demonstrated in the above link.




                      P.S Love Blight's commentary early.
                      gets better everytime

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                      • NMWBloods
                        Taking Refuge!!
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15819

                        To say that Davis was "not trying" for the past two seasons is really a bit over the top (unsurprisingly).
                        Compare his contribution to the Swans to Williams' contribution to Hawthorn this year or MOL in the past two years.

                        Code:
                        Player           Disp/game goals/game tackles/game Disp%team total Goals%team total
                        Williams 08          13         2.2       1.9            3.6%         13.8%
                        
                        Davis 06             14         1.4       2.0            4.6%          9.7%
                        
                        Davis 07             12         1.8       1.3            3.7%         13.2%
                        
                        MOL 06               12         1.9       1.5            4.0%         13.5%
                        
                        MOL 07               12         1.7       1.4            3.6%         13.2%
                        Williams has outpointed him in a number of areas, but nothing significant. Davis is on a par with MOL generally. Which certainly suggests that even though it was true that Davis could have contributed more, it's not the case that Davis was not trying nor he was not contributing. It's also not the case that Bevan's contribution this year has been greater than Davis' in the past two years, despite some erroneous views to the contrary (and if Bevan is trying his guts out and Davis is not trying at all, and Davis' contribution is still more it says something about which is the vastly better footballer).
                        Last edited by NMWBloods; 26 July 2008, 12:30 PM.
                        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                        • connolly
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 2461

                          Originally posted by NMWBloods
                          To say that Davis was "not trying" for the past two seasons is really a bit over the top (unsurprisingly).
                          Compare his contribution to the Swans to Williams' contribution to Hawthorn this year or MOL in the past two years.

                          Code:
                          Player           Disp/game goals/game tackles/game Disp%team total Goals%team total
                          Williams 08          13         2.2       1.9            3.6%         13.8%
                          
                          Davis 06             14         1.4       2.0            4.6%          8.4%
                          
                          Davis 07             12         1.8       1.3            3.7%         13.2%
                          
                          MOL 06               12         1.9       1.5            4.0%         13.5%
                          
                          MOL 07                12        1.7        1.4           3.6%         13.2%
                          Williams has outpointed him in a number of areas, but nothing significant. Which certainly suggests that even though it was true that Davis could have contributed more, it's not the case that Davis was not trying nor he was not contributing. It's also not the case that Bevan's contribution this year has been greater than Davis' in the past two years, despite some erroneous views to the contrary (and if Bevan is trying his guts out and Davis is not trying at all, and Davis' contribution is still more it says something about which is the vastly better footballer).
                          A statistical measure of effort and committment? You confuse effort and committment with performance measurement. But send it off to Thommo could come in handy in the shop around. As for Bevo refer to the Bevo Speaks thread.
                          Bevo bandwagon driver

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                          • NMWBloods
                            Taking Refuge!!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15819

                            Originally posted by connolly
                            A statistical measure of effort and committment? You confuse effort and committment with performance measurement.
                            What matters in the final outcome of professional sports is results. It's a bit hard in professional sport to perform well if you are not trying. Performance measurement has the advantage of reducing the impact of bias and rose-coloured glasses.
                            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                            • connolly
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 2461

                              Originally posted by NMWBloods
                              What matters in the final outcome of professional sports is results. It's a bit hard in professional sport to perform well if you are not trying. Performance measurement has the advantage of reducing the impact of bias and rose-coloured glasses.
                              Effort and committment are not results. They are inputs. Which is why your statistical performance comparison is useless to prove whatever point you are trying to make about the comparative inputs of the players.
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                              • NMWBloods
                                Taking Refuge!!
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 15819

                                Originally posted by connolly
                                Effort and committment are not results. They are inputs. Which is why your statistical performance comparison is useless to prove whatever point you are trying to make about the comparative inputs of the players.
                                The point I am making is that the output is what is critical in performance in professional sports. It's ultimately the most important aspect. No point in trying hard if the output is minimal. It seems unlikely that the output would be reasonable if there is no effort at all, which counters your point that Davis has not been trying for the past two seasons.
                                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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