Goodbye Nick Davis

[Vonsteinman]

A bit of perspective please.... How can some of you constantly criticise Paul Roos, the man whose blueprint actually put the Swans into contention for the 2005 Premiership and whose commitment to the Swans is beyond question, and yet laud Nick Davis, the man who has (allegedly) repeatedly broken team rules and openly shopped himself around to other clubs (a crime many seemed destined never to forgive ROK for) when things weren't going his way?

Like most of you, I am unhappy to see any Swans player who has had half the impact Davis had at the club move/d on. However the simple truth is that I don't think any of us really knows what has gone on inside the Swans and to roundly bag the coaching staff and the leadership group for this is rubbish.

I think the most telling quote from Davis in the wash up is the following:

"I totally understand the club's decision," Davis said yesterday. "I had a fair indication a fair way out that was what they were going to do, and it didn't come as any shock at all."

Swan dive - realfooty.com.au

HE knows where he went wrong, why is it so hard for you all to accept it, especially when it comes from the horse's mouth?

Incidentally, 2005 semi-final aside, surely the greatest Davis moment was kicking the sealer in round 6 2003, the first time he'd come up against the Magpies following his trade. Classic "stick it up 'em" gesture to the booing fans at Telstra Dome after the goal.

[Wardy]

My enduring memory of Nick Davis will always be some footage from the pub after the 05 GF win;

'We wouldn't have been there if not for me' and then desperately tries to drag the topic of conversation to his Geelong Qtr.

The look on Irish and Leo's faces!

um well its true!!! I have no problem with this - because if it wasnt for him as he was the only person who kicked any goals in that last quarter - we wouldnt have got there its as simple as that.


FWIW I never understand what Irish says anyway!

[swan_song]

Can I have your membership?

and my 10-year badge as well???

[AnnieH]

and my 10-year badge as well???

I may as well have the badge to go with it ... you won't be needing it after you give up your membership.

[Margie]

You can have all the talent in the world and no drive or ambition. Nick is really a boy in a man's body. He wanted to have fun and not work too hard, and collected a Premiership medal along the way so is luckier than many.

Loved some of his work, I think being a professional athlete is just not his thing. Fair enough but you can't blame Malthouse or Roos for his demise. Personal responsibility is often underrated.

Good luck for the future (and fatherhood) Nicky D and thanks for the 2005 magic!

[Wardy]

A bit of perspective please.... How can some of you constantly criticise Paul Roos, the man whose blueprint actually put the Swans into contention for the 2005 Premiership and whose commitment to the Swans is beyond question, and yet laud Nick Davis, the man who has (allegedly) repeatedly broken team rules and openly shopped himself around to other clubs (a crime many seemed destined never to forgive ROK for) when things weren't going his way?

Like most of you, I am unhappy to see any Swans player who has had half the impact Davis had at the club move/d on. However the simple truth is that I don't think any of us really knows what has gone on inside the Swans and to roundly bag the coaching staff and the leadership group for this is rubbish.

I think the most telling quote from Davis in the wash up is the following:

"I totally understand the club's decision," Davis said yesterday. "I had a fair indication a fair way out that was what they were going to do, and it didn't come as any shock at all."

Swan dive - realfooty.com.au

HE knows where he went wrong, why is it so hard for you all to accept it, especially when it comes from the horse's mouth?

Incidentally, 2005 semi-final aside, surely the greatest Davis moment was kicking the sealer in round 6 2003, the first time he'd come up against the Magpies following his trade. Classic "stick it up 'em" gesture to the booing fans at Telstra Dome after the goal.

geez first post and getting up regulars already!!!

Its not hard to accept what he has supposed to have done, but I do find the attitude the club took with him as being wrong. He was never given a chance this year, yet other's who time and time again who were absolute rubbish kept getting chosen. Obviously he and Roos didnt get along, so if you dont get along with him, you are basically stuffed.


I havent been a fan of Roos for some time - so sue me!

[AnnieH]

geez first post and getting up regulars already!!!

Its not hard to accept what he has supposed to have done, but I do find the attitude the club took with him as being wrong. He was never given a chance this year, yet other's who time and time again who were absolute rubbish kept getting chosen. Obviously he and Roos didnt get along, so if you dont get along with him, you are basically stuffed.


I havent been a fan of Roos for some time - so sue me!

How many chances do you think he deserved?

[CJK]

um well its true!!! I have no problem with this - because if it wasnt for him as he was the only person who kicked any goals in that last quarter - we wouldnt have got there its as simple as that.


FWIW I never understand what Irish says anyway!

Indeed, however would of thought he'd be more happy with a premiership win then talking about himself and what he did 3 games ago, but that seems to sum the guy up (to me).

And not that it's a bad thing, that attitude got us to the big game.


Yes, Irish speaks some strange language. I think it's Irish.

[Wardy]

How many chances do you think he deserved?

More than what he got thats for sure.

[AnnieH]

More than what he got thats for sure.

So after the fifth chance, they should have given him another?

[Wardy]

So after the fifth chance, they should have given him another?

I know of 2, what were the other 3? (or are you including what Lance Thompson said in that 5 and the exc collingwood bloke?)

[AnnieH]

I know of 2, what were the other 3? (or are you including what Lance Thompson said in that 5 and the exc collingwood bloke?)

Five is a number I pulled out of the air.

You know of two.

I'm the type of person where you only get one.

You guys know I've always hated the showpony that Davis is.

[Wardy]

Five is a number I pulled out of the air.

You know of two.

I'm the type of person where you only get one.

Ok - hmm hard task mistress - the two I know of are the "scapegoat" and the dropping this year.

matthews has played like @@@@ for most of his career but still got selected - oh yeah I forgot he was a good bloke, in the leadership group etc so he was ok...............

I hope that Goodes doesnt have anymore womens trouble and plays like he has done previously after a breakdown of relationship (which is not up to par) - what would you do then?

[AnnieH]

Ok - hmm hard task mistress - the two I know of are the "scapegoat" and the dropping this year.

matthews has played like @@@@ for most of his career but still got selected - oh yeah I forgot he was a good bloke, in the leadership group etc so he was ok...............

I hope that Goodes doesnt have anymore womens trouble and plays like he has done previously after a breakdown of relationship (which is not up to par) - what would you do then?

Goodesy's used up his first chance.
If he stuffs up again, he's dropped.

[hammo]

Goodesy's used up his first chance.
If he stuffs up again, he's dropped.

No, Goodes has had more than one chance. He had 3 this year alone. You could probably say the failure by the leadership club to act on his discipline problems earlier resulted in him getting suspended.

Hall is the other one who hasn't exactly been accountable for his actions in the past 12 months and yet remains in the leadership group.

Nick Davis was judged on a scale significantly harsher than any other Swans player. We may never know why.

Nick should be commended for the class with which he is handling himself given the circumstances.