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In sport (the AFL under its presdent shambolic administration is an exception and therefore a laughing stock in international sport) addiction to prohibited stimulants is not primarily a medical issue. It is an issue of fair competition and integrity of the code. In society it is primarily an issue of application of the criminal law. Maybe in your mind amphetimines have been de-criminalised. For the rest of us they are dangerous, illegal and destroy the integrity of the code if they are taken in conjunction with performance. Not that i am implying that anyone has of course. Are you?
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Gatlin is interesting. Superb athlete who won the 100 metre gold in 2004 and tested positive to amphetimines in 2001. He won the appeal on the grounds that he had ADD and his medication distorted the positive test. After he won the gold he tested positive to testosterone. Currently serving a four year ban from sport. Wants to play NFL when his disqualiification expires. Maybe we should recruit him after he gets over his "medical" problems. He is big and is the fastest man on earth over 100 metres. Will run all day.Bevo bandwagon driverComment
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That?s a great web site for exploring the question of performance enhancing versus ?recreational? drugs. Also a good reference tool for highlighting various drug testing regimes but seems to lump everyone into the same camp without much comparative analysis. Still couldn't find much information on addicted junkies who look like Ben Cousins.
As a consequence I'm going to continue to maintain that it's possible to be addicted to very nasty substances and still be in fine physical shape (which you don't read about too much in the education brochures). An alternative argument is that maybe Cousins wasn't as addicted as some have speculated and perhaps this explains why he actually didn't look so bad for a so called ?junkie?.
Accurate information on just how bad his problem was might be public. I don't particularly care. Someone else can look it up. I more concerned to know that he?s recovering well which by all accounts is the case.
He took drugs, admitted it, has passed all his recent tests, has played football like a banshee and I reckon he?d suit the Swans.
While we?re talking morality was there a thread comparing the relative scale of evil applicable to Bazza?s punch and Couisins? drug taking?Comment
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Connolly, the ability to run the fastest 100m in the world does not mean you have the endurance to run all day, ala Ryan O'Keefe, however he would be great to bring on in the dying stages of the 4th quarter.
Cardinal, he turns up for his first drug test totally shaved down, so they cant take a hair sample test. He recently attended the funeral of an underworld figure. When your career is on the line, these are not the actions of someone who is determined to overcome the obstacles in front of him.
If you read his wiki it puts it all in perspective.
Today's Real Footy article by Greg Baum also tells it how it really is.
I hope the guy recovers I really do and can continue his life on a good outcome, but his AFL days are over I believe and I wouldnt want the swans to take the gamble on him at 30, no matter what great deeds he did on the football field in the past.Comment
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it was a generalisation about medical leeway, not comparing Rama'
s issues to cousins's.
so get off your high horse....
considering addiction is a medical condition...
Well you do regard Cousin's addiction and his professional football career as primarily a medical problem?
if u think just because of ben's actions that other aren't or wont in the future then u are niave(not to be rude to you or that your not entitled to an opinion)
but other players and will continue to..
May i finish the statement? . . . take prohibited drugs ( including WADA listed stimulants) and play professional football.
Your post had one assumption (which is false) and one one implied conclusion (which is probably correct given the AFL's weak and belated stance on the Cousin's/ WC scandal). Handy definition of scandal is a person, or circumstance that causes or ought to cause disgrace or outrageBevo bandwagon driverComment
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If Gatlin was still dabbling in those party (sic) drugs of amphetimine and testesterone he could run all day and all night. And a last quarter performance where he would scoot away from the tiring opposition, break tackles and be all over the paddock and then turn on a celebration on the dais that would do a Sudanese dervish proud would be just super.Bevo bandwagon driverComment
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Why recruit the guy whose drug use (even if only assisting him in training) cost us back-to-back flags? His ability to gut-run all day used to leave me in awe. Now it just makes me angry.Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.Comment
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Not sure what the gamble would have been - one less kid to throw on the scrapheap in a few years time.
Whatever Cousins?s flaw I don?t think anyone questioned his commitment and dedication at training so I?m not expecting that he would have dragged the Swan?s outfit out to the Cross with him. Between Hall and Shaw you?d think we could handle another less than Kirk character in the team.Comment
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The only benefit I reckon Cousins may have got from his drugs is that he wasn't out on the grog all night and hung over the next day - hell that's half the reason sports people take them.Comment
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Seriously, his drug use is ultimately irrelevant. We're looking to rebuild, I thought. At least, that's what people here have been asking for. And yet, you want to recruit a 30 year old with a bad hamstring? It doesn't matter how good he is, we're not going to win a flag next year. We're not. Our old guys are too old, our young guys are too young. Soon, we may be in contention again, but Cousins will be either gone, or well past his best, when that happens.
Recruiting Ben Cousins would simply mean having to drop an extra young potential star midfielder. For what? So we can delude ourselves into thinking we have a realistic shot at the 2009 flag? Our best shot at a flag in the near future is to play some of our promising young midfielders, instead of superstars who will only be there for 2 years, 3 at the most.
It's all irrelevant anyway. No PSD pick, no Cousins.Last edited by BSA5; 5 December 2008, 10:54 AM.Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!Comment
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A month ago I was saying we should make a play for him. NOW, (after the shamozzel with the shaved head)I say let the smarmy-arsed bastard crawl back to his hovel. Good riddance. HaHa, sucked in Cousins.
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