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  • AnnieH
    RWOs Black Sheep
    • Aug 2006
    • 11332

    Originally posted by Cardinal
    Not sure what the gamble would have been - one less kid to throw on the scrapheap in a few years time.

    Whatever Cousins?s flaw I don?t think anyone questioned his commitment and dedication at training so I?m not expecting that he would have dragged the Swan?s outfit out to the Cross with him. Between Hall and Shaw you?d think we could handle another less than Kirk character in the team.
    I beg your pardon, but the criminal budgies did. If I recollect correctly, it was his inability to turn up to training "straight" that started this whole big bad ball rolling.
    Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
    Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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    • cruiser
      What the frack!
      • Jul 2004
      • 6114

      The SANFL doesnt want him either: SANFL clubs snub Cousins | AdelaideNow

      He may end up playing against Sydney again - our seconds in the ACTAFL
      Occupational hazards:
      I don't eat animals since discovering this ability. I used to. But one day the lamb I was eating came through to me and ever since then I haven't been able to eat meat.
      - animal psychic Amanda de Warren

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      • CureTheSane
        Carpe Noctem
        • Jan 2003
        • 5032

        Originally posted by BSA5
        we're not going to win a flag next year.

        Yes we are!
        The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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        • 573v30
          On the bandwagon...
          • Sep 2005
          • 5017

          Originally posted by CureTheSane

          Yes we are!
          The reserves will.
          I only support one team: The SYDNEY SWANS!!!!! :adore

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          • Nico
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 11348

            Originally posted by robamiee
            Hey Nico

            it was a generalisation about medical leeway, not comparing Rama'
            s issues to cousins's.
            so get off your high horse....
            considering addiction is a medical condition...
            there is no point taking any experts point as you will always find an expert to contradict the other expert.

            no one is suggesting well i am not that Cousins is owed anything from any of the clubs, my personal opinion is he deserves a second chance as it would be sad to see a great footballer bow out the way he has...

            if u think just because of ben's actions that other aren't or wont in the future then u are niave(not to be rude to you or that your not entitled to an opinion)
            but other players and will continue to..
            High horse.....no just expressing an opinion.

            Yes and which expert said drug addiction was a medical condition? Is smoking cigarettes a medical condition.

            My last comment on Cousins....he had his second chance a long, long time ago.
            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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            • timthefish
              Regular in the Side
              • Sep 2003
              • 940

              Originally posted by Nico
              Yes and which expert said drug addiction was a medical condition? Is smoking cigarettes a medical condition.
              just about all of them, particularly those that advised the AFL in the development of their out-of-competition testing policy. recent research has shown that nicotine addiction is particularly based in physiology. rather than a simple stimulation or inhibition of a metabolite receptor or transporter, a profound change occurs thoughout the brain that creates in many cases an instant addict from the first moderate dose of nicotine.

              almost everything about drug-taking and drug addiction is medical to an extent (and legal, ethical, economic and social and so-on) from the reasons for use/abuse (psychological) to the physiological and biochemical basis of action, side-effect, potential addiction and withdrawal.
              then again, i think it would be worth trying 15-16 players on field so what would i know

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              • goswannie14
                Leadership Group
                • Sep 2005
                • 11166

                Originally posted by Nico
                My last comment on Cousins....he had his second chance a long, long time ago.
                When exactly was that?

                As you may have guessed, I am in the "Give everyone a second chance" brigade. It sort of comes with the job.
                Does God believe in Atheists?

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                • Robbo
                  On the Rookie List
                  • May 2007
                  • 2946

                  I think he has said that he doesn't really want to finish his career in a lower league.

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                  • T-bag
                    Warming the Bench
                    • May 2008
                    • 248

                    Originally posted by goswannie14
                    When exactly was that?

                    As you may have guessed, I am in the "Give everyone a second chance" brigade. It sort of comes with the job.
                    Probably when he ran away from the booze bus. Now why did he do that again? and why didn't he wake up to himself after that incident?

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                    • ScottH
                      It's Goodes to cheer!!
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 23665

                      Originally posted by CureTheSane

                      Yes we are!


                      Optimist!!

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                      • BSA5
                        Senior Player
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 2522

                        Originally posted by ScottH


                        Optimist!!

                        They can make a bloke sick, eh?
                        Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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                        • CureTheSane
                          Carpe Noctem
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 5032

                          To me there is nothing surer in 2009.....
                          The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                          • Nico
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 11348

                            Originally posted by T-bag
                            Probably when he ran away from the booze bus. Now why did he do that again? and why didn't he wake up to himself after that incident?
                            And when he flaked out on the bench outside Crown Casino, or was that his
                            3rd chance. Damn I said I wasn't going to comment on him again.

                            On the term "medical condition"; I spoke to a person last night who has worked in mental health/drug addiction his whole career and his best way of describing such is this:

                            It is a paradigm in that it is self inflicted by people who know right from the start that it is likely to have harmful long term affects, and it is now, with the enormous research going into it, as best being treated with medicines that are in some cases addictive in themselves.
                            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                            • CureTheSane
                              Carpe Noctem
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 5032

                              BFD

                              I went out this afternoon to a get together at the Flagstaff Gardens.
                              I'd had a crap day where the kids had driven me nut with their hyperactive full of beans crap and I really needed to relax.
                              It has been a month since I'd had a drink so I waited for my wife to get home from work and happily asked her if she'd drive both to and from the event.
                              Normally we have an agreement that we share the driving - me to and her from
                              Anyway, I had a few drinks on the way in, got pretty happy this afternoon and came home.
                              I used alcohol as a relaxant of sorts.
                              As a general rule I'd drink about every 30 days.
                              In a way I guess I am reliant on alcohol which is a drug.
                              Happens to be a legal drug so I am well within societies boundaries.
                              I could go through other times in my life when I was reliant on this drug.
                              At times I'd be drinking 4 nights a week for a year or so.
                              My brother has a couple of beer every night.
                              Guess that makes him an alcoholic of sorts.
                              A bloke I used to be very close to through high school decided to get right into dope after school.
                              Through recent contact 15 years later on Facebook it seems he still is a bit of a doper.
                              We have little in common, but I don't hate what he does, even if I don't agree with it.

                              Cousins did drugs, and as far as I'm concerned, he deserves all the praise in the world for the efforts he has made in making his life 'better'
                              We'll always have the 'budgie haters' or whatever they call the West Coast players, and because of our recent history there will always be the haters who do so just because of the 96 GF loss.
                              I don't understand how people are so able to disregard the human factor and just rest on the whole 'opposition piece of crap' line and hate for hates sake.

                              To be honest the sentiment on this whole thread makes me sad.
                              I understand the not wanting Cousins at the Swans. I get his age and his injury record etc, and those who have presented their fair and 'football' POV are all within reason.

                              But then you have the condemners.
                              Annie springs to mind, and it may be unfair to name names, but she just seems so hateful for the sake of hating a WC player that her opinion seems a waste of time.
                              With so much misery in the world, it seems really really sad to slam Cousins down when he has done everything anyone could expect of him to rectify his problem. As far as I am concerned, people in the public spotlight like this should be applauded for not only setting a standard of rehabilitation for others to follow, but also for completely fulfilling their 'role as a role mode' and correcting their mistakes.
                              What better role model is there than one who admits his mistakes and corrects them?
                              These are the 'non football' reasons I'd have had him at the Swans.
                              The football reasons as I have said are worth the risk.

                              And that's all I have to say about that.

                              Except for that I wasn't having a go at Annie necessarily, but as those who appear to just be anti for the sake of being anti about an opposition player.
                              The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                              • AnnieH
                                RWOs Black Sheep
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 11332

                                ANYONE who admits or is tested positive for taking drugs in sport should be banned for life.

                                I'm just lucky I guess that I'm able to revel in the fact that it is the little turd cousins that I'm able to drag through the mud.

                                If it were Goodesy I would have committed suicide a long time ago!!
                                Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                                Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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