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  • SwansFan1972
    On the Rookie List
    • Nov 2008
    • 621

    Originally posted by View from stand
    Actually, the crowd was over 22,000. There were no crowds under 10,000 in Sydney in 1996.

    Obviously applying the reverse of normal rugby league crowd counting
    Nope - nothing quite so scientific. Just a recollection that we were able to sit where we wanted with our $15 Swanslink ticket (we chose the O'Reilly Stand) and from where we were sitting, there were plenty of seats to choose from everywhere. 22,000 then and 24,000 these days sure looks pretty different - I suspect there may have been some fanciful crowd numbers posted back then.

    The match took place before the team's awesome run throughout the remainder of 1996, with hidings to Freo and Adelaide in their early round kitbag. If there was 22,000 there that night they were sitting in some pretty well hidden places.

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    • SwansFan1972
      On the Rookie List
      • Nov 2008
      • 621

      Originally posted by fanciful
      From the letter

      Fact: Every adult and family member has the ability with the extra choices available to reduce the price of their 2009 membership relative to what they paid in 2008. So in a sense you can choose what you are happy to pay for and can afford.

      Is that really true?
      If they can fit a few thousand disgruntled members into the Bronze bays, (all two of them), it might hold up. Or if they count people switching to the lakeside option (but they lose four games). Using myself as a guide, our 2A+2J concourse season ticket holder package was $590 last year. The same in the bronze zone this year is $565. Where we want to sit - our current seats - is $970.

      A fact it may be, but given the available supply of bronze zone seats, it is an extraordinarily cynical statement to make (and gives an insight into the contempt management has for the membership, regardless of their woolly statements about how important we are to them).

      Maybe the smart play is to wait until the cut off date to renew, apply for the bronze bays (and nothing else) and then when they call to say it's full, quote Myles and insist on "the fact" being applied in your case. They then have the option of shifting you (presumably to silver, at the bronze rate) to keep you, or you can tell em to stick it and the club loses you alltogether.

      It feels like guerrilla warfare coming up with ideas such as this, but the club started this game and all's fair in love and war! And we all still love - that's the problem!

      And now I've posted twice when I'd said I was more over it than still angry. Seems I have a little way to go!

      Good luck to all with your seating arrangements, regardless of what you decide to do - and I hope we see some good footy next year, be it at the ground or (sob!) on the box
      Last edited by SwansFan1972; 21 November 2008, 09:40 AM.

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      • laughingnome
        Amateur Statsman
        • Jul 2006
        • 1624

        Originally posted by SwansFan1972
        Maybe the smart play is to wait until the cut off date to renew, apply for the bronze bays (and nothing else) and then when they call to say it's full, quote Myles and insist on "the fact" being applied in your case. They then have the option of shifting you (presumably to silver, at the bronze rate) to keep you, or you can tell em to stick it and the club loses you alltogether.
        I like your style of bargaining. Also, thanks for bringing back memories of James Hird running towards an open goal with seconds to go in that match (R6, 1996) and missing
        10100111001 ;-)

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        • swan_song
          I'm SO over the swans!
          • Jan 2003
          • 981

          Well, it's done and dusted now...(see my previous post if interested)...with trembling hand and quivering lower lip, yesterday I posted back all our 2009 membership forms duly marked "cancel all". I am now sad, as no more Swannies live for us, but for all of the reasons mentioned previously (and a lot more besides, including our very uncertain economic future) discretionary spending has to be reined in. By not going to swans matches in 2009 we will save, or rather not spend, close to $2,000 (includes seats, travel, parking, food, drinks, Record, etc). That's money that can help claw back some of the massive mortgage rate hikes...
          "Davis...Davis has kicked 2...he snaps from 40...dont tell me, dont tell me, hes kicked a goal....unbelievable stuff from Nick Davis, can you believe this, he's kicked 3 final quarter goals and Swans are within 3 points..."

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          • SwansFan1972
            On the Rookie List
            • Nov 2008
            • 621

            Originally posted by laughingnome
            I like your style of bargaining. Also, thanks for bringing back memories of James Hird running towards an open goal with seconds to go in that match (R6, 1996) and missing
            ha ha, thanks! B Com, Industrial Relations, Wollongong Uni. Tough bargaining is all we know!

            That game in 1996, remember it like yesterday - even if I'm fuzzy on crowd numbers!

            Crowd figures for 96 say there were 26000 or so for the Brisbane game on the Sunday afternoon a few rounds later. That day felt like a beach party - people everywhere, fun game, awesome result (a big win of course) Plugger kicked 11. It felt like the place was bursting at the seams that day!

            That's it - stop it! The more reminiscing I do the more I feel I will have to sell a kidney to keep our seats after all! But it's just not right!

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            • SwansFan1972
              On the Rookie List
              • Nov 2008
              • 621

              Originally posted by swan_song
              Well, it's done and dusted now...(see my previous post if interested)...with trembling hand and quivering lower lip, yesterday I posted back all our 2009 membership forms duly marked "cancel all". I am now sad, as no more Swannies live for us, but for all of the reasons mentioned previously (and a lot more besides, including our very uncertain economic future) discretionary spending has to be reined in. By not going to swans matches in 2009 we will save, or rather not spend, close to $2,000 (includes seats, travel, parking, food, drinks, Record, etc). That's money that can help claw back some of the massive mortgage rate hikes...
              Share your pain ... the day is 99% likely to come for us too. (why don't they have a crying smiley - we need it)

              Get the super duper pass on the cheap for ANZ and treat yourself to a family ticket at the SCG for a game or two. It might only be a trial separation, not a complete divorce - 2010 could hold all sorts of changes!

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              • Jude4eva
                On the Rookie List
                • Jan 2003
                • 107

                I share both your pain i called up this week to cancel my membership and after i got off the phone i was incredibly sad about the whole thing 10 yrs ive spent winters going to the swans in both sydney and melb and in 2009 no live games in Sydney ??? about Melb.

                1 chapter closes i guess another may open eventually.
                "I feel it in my fingers i feel it in my toes... Sydney Swans are all around me and there everywhere i go. A premiership is there beside me and thats all i know"

                Only $1 for a cornetto that is DAYLIGHT SAVINGS!!!!!

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                • cersm
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1

                  31% Increase in prices

                  We joined as a family last year for $590 (Silver seats) driving down from Newcastle each weekend. The same seats this year cost $770. An increase of 31% !! Outrageous increase to put up with average facilities and disgusting porta-loos. Looks like I will be getting that Foxtel subscription instead and wait for the Swans management to come to their senses.

                  Richard

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                  • Cheer Squad mbr
                    In The Apple Isle
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 347

                    Originally posted by cersm
                    We joined as a family last year for $590 (Silver seats) driving down from Newcastle each weekend. The same seats this year cost $770. An increase of 31% !! Outrageous increase to put up with average facilities and disgusting porta-loos. Looks like I will be getting that Foxtel subscription instead and wait for the Swans management to come to their senses.

                    Richard
                    Colles?
                    "Two cities, One team, Together, Living the Dream."

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                    • Mel
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 883

                      Originally posted by SwansFan1972
                      Maybe the smart play is to wait until the cut off date to renew, apply for the bronze bays (and nothing else) and then when they call to say it's full, quote Myles and insist on "the fact" being applied in your case. They then have the option of shifting you (presumably to silver, at the bronze rate) to keep you, or you can tell em to stick it and the club loses you alltogether.

                      You sound just like my dad This is what he's decided he's doing. I've already accepted that next year will be my first year as an adult without Swans membership. I'll watch them on tele and the time I save not travelling to and from the game.....I might take up golf
                      Life's not a spectator sport

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                      • SwansFan1972
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 621

                        Originally posted by Mel
                        You sound just like my dad This is what he's decided he's doing. I've already accepted that next year will be my first year as an adult without Swans membership. I'll watch them on tele and the time I save not travelling to and from the game.....I might take up golf
                        He sounds like a very wise man, your dad!

                        It's pretty sad that it has come to this. I hope all the newbies the club hopes to recruit are good replacements for us, but I have my doubts - (a) that they can find any; and (b) that they would even come close to being such good members as we all were!

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                        • AnnieH
                          RWOs Black Sheep
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 11332

                          Originally posted by SwansFan1972
                          He sounds like a very wise man, your dad!

                          It's pretty sad that it has come to this. I hope all the newbies the club hopes to recruit are good replacements for us, but I have my doubts - (a) that they can find any; and (b) that they would even come close to being such good members as we all were!
                          I've spoken to all around me.
                          Out of 2 x Family and 6 x Adult memberships, only one (x adult) is not renewing.
                          Of the family memberships, both are looking for extra seats.
                          I'm also looking to upgrade to a family membership.

                          Hopefully the club can keep us all together - none of us want to move our seats and no-one will be upgrading or buying extra seats if they want to move us.
                          Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                          Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                          • Mike_B
                            Peyow Peyow
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 6267

                            Talk about a HUGE backflip......this from the member e-news that just hit my inbox

                            We write to advise you of an important change which affects the grading of reserved seats in the SCG concourse. Based on valued feedback from our members, we have made the decision to re-grade the SCG concourse into Silver and Bronze (previously Gold, Silver and Bronze). This means that the Gold seats in the O?Reilly Stand bays 6 to 10 and Brewongle Stand bays 29 to 33 (as illustrated on page 22 of the 2009 Membership Guide) will now be classified as Silver.

                            This will affect Standard Season Ticket Holders, Full Club and Premiership Club Members who sat in these bays in 2008. The reason for this change is that these members are those who were going to be most affected by the grading of their seats to Gold. We respect that many of these people are loyal long-standing members and we want to make sure we do all we can to ensure they renew their membership.
                            I wonder how much of the feedback has been from this thread?

                            I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

                            If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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                            • AussieAnge
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 1057

                              Originally posted by Mike_B
                              Talk about a HUGE backflip......this from the member e-news that just hit my inbox



                              I wonder how much of the feedback has been from this thread?
                              You beat me to it Mike I was just about to post the same thing.
                              Here's the link:

                              Important note to Swans members - Official AFL Website of the Sydney Swans


                              As Wolfie used to say "Power to the people"!
                              Bring it on!

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                              • desredandwhite
                                Click!
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 2498

                                Haha - THAT makes more sense!

                                177th Senior AFL Match - Round 4, 2009 - Sydney vs Carlton, SCG. This is obviously out of date. I suppose I'll update it once I could be bothered sitting down with the fixture and working it out....
                                Des' Weblog

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