Rhyce Shaw....dud pickup?

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  • connolly
    Registered User
    • Aug 2005
    • 2461

    #46
    Originally posted by satchmopugdog
    I was just going to say great analysis Connelly.


    You have now sent me on a journey trying to remeber the great steppers. Kelly had a bit of a step...Schwass was good....does Robert Harvey count or was his a completely different skill.
    Kelly was a great stepper. Dunno about Harvey as I didn't see enough of him. In the twilight of his career he was in a walking frame.The great Skilton was the best i have ever seen (as a tiny tot of course). He was Gene Kellyese. Strong, hunched and could slip with a sway of the hips and a step out of seething packs. The appalling Eric Guy waited for him on the fringe of a pack one day and knocked him unconscious just as Skilts had slipped another scrum. Skilton such a great player. On the dancing theme - Kennelly riverdanced while Shaw boot scoots.
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    • royboy42
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2006
      • 2078

      #47
      Is there a better stepper than Chris Judd?

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      • connolly
        Registered User
        • Aug 2005
        • 2461

        #48
        Originally posted by AnnieH
        Yes, but Leo has the decision making skills of a junkie.

        What he was just waiting for another hit?
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        • connolly
          Registered User
          • Aug 2005
          • 2461

          #49
          Originally posted by royboy42
          Is there a better stepper than Chris Judd?
          At the moment no. Of course the bloke with absolutely no step was Plugger Lockett. Didn't have to. His opponents stepped around him.
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          • Mr Magoo
            Senior Player
            • May 2008
            • 1255

            #50
            Or he just stepped through them. Gotta love plugger havent you

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            • CJK
              Human
              • Apr 2006
              • 2170

              #51
              Thread has improved no end.

              Kudos to the RWO Massive.
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              • shaun..
                Stuck in Reserves
                • Jun 2007
                • 691

                #52
                Originally posted by royboy42
                Is there a better stepper than Chris Judd?
                Bird is the best 'stepper' in the team.

                Honourable mentions to MOL, McVeigh, Mattner and Buchanan.
                "In some ways we?re less predictable to ourselves and sometimes that can be detrimental because we don?t really know where we?re going" - P.Roos

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                • Nico
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 11339

                  #53
                  Originally posted by connolly
                  The holy grail of effective defense is to control the central corridor from the midfield back to the defensive 30 metre line. Central corridor control will push teams wide which:
                  1. forces attacking thrusts to the flanks and slows the attack; or
                  2. smothers the attack in a heavy defensive zone (the imbecilic melbourne media calls this a flood!) and
                  3. makes teams forced to attack from the flanks vulnerable to quick up the guts counter attacks as the rebound exposes the opposition strung out on the flanks.
                  The pussies are virtually unbeatable at the present time because of the central corridor control. Significantly Rhyced Lightning was constantly forced wide by them and his effectiveness was reduced. The loss of Kennelly has been critical because he could steer our attack out of defense. He was good enough to beat an opponent with his step and had the reflex, vision and quickness to weave a passage into the central corridor. This a rare skill. Leo Barry in his prime was good at it as well. Shaw is a runner not a stepper.
                  Strewth mate you've really gone the whole hog there. You've mentioned; centre corridors, thrusts, flanks, quick up the guts and even pussies.

                  This would all be simply precised by one of the classic wedding telegrams from days gone by.

                  It goes: To the groom, treat your wedding night like a no frills game of footy. No playing around the flanks, go straight up the middle.
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                  • Nico
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                    • Jan 2003
                    • 11339

                    #54
                    Originally posted by satchmopugdog
                    I was just going to say great analysis Connelly.


                    You have now sent me on a journey trying to remeber the great steppers. Kelly had a bit of a step...Schwass was good....does Robert Harvey count or was his a completely different skill.
                    Buchanan is a great stepper but he always gets caught.
                    http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                    • connolly
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 2461

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Melbournehammer
                      I reckon that this is due to a number of factors. I reckon there are three:

                      1. apart from shaw we lack running defenders. Part of what was letting Kennelly down in the last couple of years was he would handball to a player in the midfield looking for the 1-2 but the opposition were sweating on his first handball a lot more. When both leo and Tadhg were running out of defence there was a lot of heart in mouth moments but it was fast in the corridor risk-taking and the opposition was often unsure who to follow. When it was Tadhg alone there was a lot more pressure on the receiver of the looping handpass.

                      2. The development in the last 5 years of the small but extremely quick forward pocket whose job it is to stop half bank flankers from running has tended to mean that most clubs aren't getting the same run and carry as in the past. I reckon the leo/Tadhg problems started to emerge when (in particular) they started having collingwood forwards chase from behind a lot more

                      3. the absence of genuinely quick swans midfielders means its harder to get the ball into space. Fosdike, williams, crouch all could be quick across the lines meaning that the opposition had to follow these players opening up space. Our current midfield lacks pace and that brings more players into confined areas.
                      Agree with all that particularly point 2. Fossie is a big loss because he motored all over the paddock. He presented everywhere for the second phase play out of defense. Covered more ground than Burke and Wills. When you put the loss of Kennelly and Fossie together we have lost a lot of get up and go. We are moving the ball a lot slower this season as a consequence particularly when Goodsey is not firing.
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                      • connolly
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                        • Aug 2005
                        • 2461

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Nico
                        It goes: To the groom, treat your wedding night like a no frills game of footy. No playing around the flanks, go straight up the middle.
                        Jeez Nico some bad memories there. Mine was like playing Geelong. Had an absolute shocker
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                        • cruiser
                          What the frack!
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 6114

                          #57
                          Originally posted by snajik
                          I really do find these threads where a player is singled out for a bollocking exceptionally tiresome.
                          Actually, I'm pleased to see that this thread has become quite the opposite - a thread of widespread praise for a top recruit.
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                          • MarshallG
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 161

                            #58
                            A great pick up.

                            Love his dash.

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                            • satchmopugdog
                              Bandicoots ears
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 3691

                              #59
                              Originally posted by connolly
                              Jeez Nico some bad memories there. Mine was like playing Geelong. Had an absolute shocker

                              Mine was New Year's Eve...lots of fireworks!!!!!!!!!
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                              • Nico
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                                • Jan 2003
                                • 11339

                                #60
                                Originally posted by satchmopugdog
                                Mine was New Year's Eve...lots of fireworks!!!!!!!!!
                                Is your husband a golfer?
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