Is any of this true? Barry Hall maybe forced to retire by Roos /Or will he quit?

[connolly]

I agree, Doggies need a big aggressive forward to have any real crack at a flag. It'll cost them nothing in terms of players And will be a nice little reunion with Eade who brought BBBH to Sydney in the first place.

And was shafted by Tricky Dicky as well.

[Young Blood]

2 of 23. He missed the maggot.
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Players get suspended for breaches of the rules. Not compulsorarily retired by a bunch of ungrateful snipers (including his captain). How would you deal with Leigh Mathews? He has a criminal conviction for a brutal act of cowardice on a football field. They made him a Legend!

Wakelin recently admitted that Hall didn't miss him. But whether the swing connected doesn't affect the substance of the argument.

The game has changed since the 80s. Whether this is a good thing is another issue. The fact is that it has and Barry and every other player has to adjust. Barry showed in his first 6 seasons with the Swans that he was capable of this. But for some reason, it's clear that he can no longer control his actions. The club cannot ignore this.

[Plugger46]

Wakelin recently admitted that Hall didn't miss him. But whether the swing connected doesn't affect the substance of the argument.

Wakelin is as soft as butter. Remember he had a cry when Plugger pushed him in the back? Admittedly it was late but it was so soft.
Deadset whinger, who probably didn't like Hall and Lockett when he played with them.

[Flossie]

2 of 23. He missed the maggot. Why should he retire? The competition rules deal with the infringement. The club should back its players. Our useless president should have been screaming the joint down over the lack of protection that the big bloke gets week after week from the umps. He has landed a zinger on the whiskers of a serial tormentor, missed Wakelin and hit Rutten with the softest jab ever thrown in the history of the sport. And this warrants retirement from a big hearted big man who has never shirked a contest or not played his guts out for the club? Players get suspended for breaches of the rules. Not compulsorarily retired by a bunch of ungrateful snipers (including his captain). How would you deal with Leigh Mathews? He has a criminal conviction for a brutal act of cowardice on a football field. They made him a Legend!

Connelly I couldn't agree with you more. The umpires dont seem to care when Barry is being targeted and the Club should have done more to protect him. If he resigns or is pushed I will be very hacked off with the Swans. Stick up for our players!!!!

[Wardy]

Wakelin recently admitted that Hall didn't miss him. But whether the swing connected doesn't affect the substance of the argument.

The game has changed since the 80s. Whether this is a good thing is another issue. The fact is that it has and Barry and every other player has to adjust. Barry showed in his first 6 seasons with the Swans that he was capable of this. But for some reason, it's clear that he can no longer control his actions. The club cannot ignore this.

Wakelin is living in fairy land - look at the footage.....I doubt Wakelin would say it didnt connect purely because it makes him look even more stupid, a penatly puller and that he deliberatly took a dive, which he did.. Had it have connected, he would have been dazed for a minute or two unable to stand up - as it was he got straight up after the Swan dive and kept running, not a problem All footage showed that it didnt connect - it was all because of the swing.

Yes the game has changed but Hall shouldn't be made to retire over this.

The mind games that are being played out here are pathetic.

[Young Blood]

Yes the game has changed but Hall shouldn't be made to retire over this.

Noone can make Barry retire. The question for Roos et al is whether it is in the club's best interest - and Barry's best interest - for him to play the last 7 games of the season. If they're not confident that Barry can control his actions, I can't see how they could pick him.

[Wardy]

Noone can make Barry retire. The question for Roos et al is whether it is in the club's best interest - and Barry's best interest - for him to play the last 7 games of the season. If they're not confident that Barry can control his actions, I can't see how they could pick him.

Oh please - if he is available to play - and he is in the best 22, which he is by a country mile, then if Roos doesnt pick him ,then all Roos is doing is cutting off his nose to spite his face. And it proves that Roos wants him gone - he did it with Davis (and couldnt we do with someone with his talents right about now???) he's doing it to Hall. I find it laughable that Kirk says that he can trust him with his kids, but not on the field - that is just stupid.
Well all I can say is, if Hall doesnt get a run Then Kirk better pull his socks up play blinders for the rest of the season - kick 4-5 goals per game and justify his and Roos's actions.

[Industrial Fan]

(and couldnt we do with someone with his talents right about now???)

Pfft. He would be about as useful to us now as Grimace would be leading a revolution.

The Barry incident was soft, but its important to set an example for the next generation and maintain the culture internally. The whole point is that in letting himself down with stupidity he's letting the team down even more in making himself unavailable. Ok, the club could keep the hounds at bay and deflect the attention but its not really the issue.

[ShockOfHair]

YAY Annie!

BUT, as mad as I am at Hall, as disappointed as I am in him, how much I want to give him a slap, I don't want him to go......perverse of me I admit, but even after everything he has done, over the years I mean, I still want to give the silly beast a hug.

Don't want to hug the guy but I do love him in a supporterish-kind-of-way. He's a fantastic team-man, has done a huge amount for us, and is a great guy off the field. Then the red mist comes down.

We need him next year but can we rely on him to keep his word?

[jono2707]

[QUOTE=Wardy;446593]Oh please - if he is available to play - and he is in the best 22, which he is by a country mile, then if Roos doesnt pick him ,then all Roos is doing is cutting off his nose to spite his face.

Its one thing to be in the best 22, which he clearly is, and another to act in an appropriate way when on the field. If he cannot act in the manner in which the coach and his teammates expect, then its up to the Swans administration to decide whether there is a place in the team for him in future. Its not all about talent, but about actions and attitude as well.

Its a shame, as he's been great for us for a good number of years, but all good (and big bad things as well) must come to an end at some stage.

[annew]

I reckon that Hall has already been given the push and that they are giving him the opportunity to say he doesn't want t play at the Swans rather than say he was sacked. This way he can go to another club if there is one available. I do not think he will play another game for the Swans - he is gone!

[ShockOfHair]

He'll play out this year at the Swans. It's next year that is the question.

[dread and might]

Hall says leaving is an option

Sorry if posted elsewhere

could now be the right time for me finish up at the Swans? By that I don't mean retirement. I mean walk away from the club, not footy. It could give me a break I might benefit from, and freshen me up for a crack with a new club next season,

source

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/hall-says-quitting-the-swans-an-option/2009/07/02/1246127636009.html

Surely the end is nigh.

[The Big Cat]

Delaying the decision on Hall is classic disciplinary strategy - straight out of psychology 101. As an ex-deputy principal, I used this ploy all the time. "See me before class tomorrow morning because I need a bit of time to decide if this school is really the best place for you". Let the kid sweat it out for a while and have a good think about how things are really getting serious.

Baz will be in the team, but not before he realises he's really hanging by a thread.

[Bloody Hell]

Just listening to MMM, talking about Hall.

Sam Newman just said Roos is the best coach in the comp?!?