Is any of this true? Barry Hall maybe forced to retire by Roos /Or will he quit?

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  • connolly
    Registered User
    • Aug 2005
    • 2461

    Originally posted by ernie koala
    I agree, Doggies need a big aggressive forward to have any real crack at a flag. It'll cost them nothing in terms of players And will be a nice little reunion with Eade who brought BBBH to Sydney in the first place.
    And was shafted by Tricky Dicky as well.
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    • Young Blood
      On the rise
      • Apr 2005
      • 541

      Originally posted by connolly
      2 of 23. He missed the maggot.
      ...
      Players get suspended for breaches of the rules. Not compulsorarily retired by a bunch of ungrateful snipers (including his captain). How would you deal with Leigh Mathews? He has a criminal conviction for a brutal act of cowardice on a football field. They made him a Legend!
      Wakelin recently admitted that Hall didn't miss him. But whether the swing connected doesn't affect the substance of the argument.

      The game has changed since the 80s. Whether this is a good thing is another issue. The fact is that it has and Barry and every other player has to adjust. Barry showed in his first 6 seasons with the Swans that he was capable of this. But for some reason, it's clear that he can no longer control his actions. The club cannot ignore this.

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      • Plugger46
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2003
        • 3674

        Originally posted by Young Blood
        Wakelin recently admitted that Hall didn't miss him. But whether the swing connected doesn't affect the substance of the argument.
        Wakelin is as soft as butter. Remember he had a cry when Plugger pushed him in the back? Admittedly it was late but it was so soft.
        Deadset whinger, who probably didn't like Hall and Lockett when he played with them.
        Bloods

        "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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        • Flossie
          On the Rookie List
          • Jun 2007
          • 76

          Originally posted by connolly
          2 of 23. He missed the maggot. Why should he retire? The competition rules deal with the infringement. The club should back its players. Our useless president should have been screaming the joint down over the lack of protection that the big bloke gets week after week from the umps. He has landed a zinger on the whiskers of a serial tormentor, missed Wakelin and hit Rutten with the softest jab ever thrown in the history of the sport. And this warrants retirement from a big hearted big man who has never shirked a contest or not played his guts out for the club? Players get suspended for breaches of the rules. Not compulsorarily retired by a bunch of ungrateful snipers (including his captain). How would you deal with Leigh Mathews? He has a criminal conviction for a brutal act of cowardice on a football field. They made him a Legend!
          Connelly I couldn't agree with you more. The umpires dont seem to care when Barry is being targeted and the Club should have done more to protect him. If he resigns or is pushed I will be very hacked off with the Swans. Stick up for our players!!!!

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          • Wardy
            The old Boiler!
            • Sep 2003
            • 6676

            Originally posted by Young Blood
            Wakelin recently admitted that Hall didn't miss him. But whether the swing connected doesn't affect the substance of the argument.

            The game has changed since the 80s. Whether this is a good thing is another issue. The fact is that it has and Barry and every other player has to adjust. Barry showed in his first 6 seasons with the Swans that he was capable of this. But for some reason, it's clear that he can no longer control his actions. The club cannot ignore this.
            Wakelin is living in fairy land - look at the footage.....I doubt Wakelin would say it didnt connect purely because it makes him look even more stupid, a penatly puller and that he deliberatly took a dive, which he did.. Had it have connected, he would have been dazed for a minute or two unable to stand up - as it was he got straight up after the Swan dive and kept running, not a problem All footage showed that it didnt connect - it was all because of the swing.

            Yes the game has changed but Hall shouldn't be made to retire over this.

            The mind games that are being played out here are pathetic.
            I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
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            • Young Blood
              On the rise
              • Apr 2005
              • 541

              Originally posted by Wardy
              Yes the game has changed but Hall shouldn't be made to retire over this.
              Noone can make Barry retire. The question for Roos et al is whether it is in the club's best interest - and Barry's best interest - for him to play the last 7 games of the season. If they're not confident that Barry can control his actions, I can't see how they could pick him.

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              • Wardy
                The old Boiler!
                • Sep 2003
                • 6676

                Originally posted by Young Blood
                Noone can make Barry retire. The question for Roos et al is whether it is in the club's best interest - and Barry's best interest - for him to play the last 7 games of the season. If they're not confident that Barry can control his actions, I can't see how they could pick him.
                Oh please - if he is available to play - and he is in the best 22, which he is by a country mile, then if Roos doesnt pick him ,then all Roos is doing is cutting off his nose to spite his face. And it proves that Roos wants him gone - he did it with Davis (and couldnt we do with someone with his talents right about now???) he's doing it to Hall. I find it laughable that Kirk says that he can trust him with his kids, but not on the field - that is just stupid.
                Well all I can say is, if Hall doesnt get a run Then Kirk better pull his socks up play blinders for the rest of the season - kick 4-5 goals per game and justify his and Roos's actions.
                I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
                Chickens drink - but they don't pee!
                AGE IS ONLY IMPORTANT FOR TWO THINGS - WINE & CHEESE!

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                • Industrial Fan
                  Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 3318

                  Originally posted by Wardy
                  (and couldnt we do with someone with his talents right about now???)
                  Pfft. He would be about as useful to us now as Grimace would be leading a revolution.

                  The Barry incident was soft, but its important to set an example for the next generation and maintain the culture internally. The whole point is that in letting himself down with stupidity he's letting the team down even more in making himself unavailable. Ok, the club could keep the hounds at bay and deflect the attention but its not really the issue.
                  He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                  • ShockOfHair
                    One Man Out
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 3668

                    Originally posted by Primmy
                    YAY Annie!

                    BUT, as mad as I am at Hall, as disappointed as I am in him, how much I want to give him a slap, I don't want him to go......perverse of me I admit, but even after everything he has done, over the years I mean, I still want to give the silly beast a hug.
                    Don't want to hug the guy but I do love him in a supporterish-kind-of-way. He's a fantastic team-man, has done a huge amount for us, and is a great guy off the field. Then the red mist comes down.

                    We need him next year but can we rely on him to keep his word?
                    The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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                    • jono2707
                      Goes up to 11
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 3326

                      [QUOTE=Wardy;446593]Oh please - if he is available to play - and he is in the best 22, which he is by a country mile, then if Roos doesnt pick him ,then all Roos is doing is cutting off his nose to spite his face.

                      Its one thing to be in the best 22, which he clearly is, and another to act in an appropriate way when on the field. If he cannot act in the manner in which the coach and his teammates expect, then its up to the Swans administration to decide whether there is a place in the team for him in future. Its not all about talent, but about actions and attitude as well.

                      Its a shame, as he's been great for us for a good number of years, but all good (and big bad things as well) must come to an end at some stage.

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                      • annew
                        Senior Player
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 2164

                        I reckon that Hall has already been given the push and that they are giving him the opportunity to say he doesn't want t play at the Swans rather than say he was sacked. This way he can go to another club if there is one available. I do not think he will play another game for the Swans - he is gone!

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                        • ShockOfHair
                          One Man Out
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 3668

                          He'll play out this year at the Swans. It's next year that is the question.
                          The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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                          • dread and might
                            Back, strapped and intact
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 949

                            Hall says leaving is an option

                            Sorry if posted elsewhere
                            could now be the right time for me finish up at the Swans? By that I don't mean retirement. I mean walk away from the club, not footy. It could give me a break I might benefit from, and freshen me up for a crack with a new club next season,
                            source



                            Surely the end is nigh.
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                            • The Big Cat
                              On the veteran's list
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 2356

                              Delaying the decision on Hall is classic disciplinary strategy - straight out of psychology 101. As an ex-deputy principal, I used this ploy all the time. "See me before class tomorrow morning because I need a bit of time to decide if this school is really the best place for you". Let the kid sweat it out for a while and have a good think about how things are really getting serious.

                              Baz will be in the team, but not before he realises he's really hanging by a thread.
                              Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                              • Bloody Hell
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 3085

                                Just listening to MMM, talking about Hall.

                                Sam Newman just said Roos is the best coach in the comp?!?
                                The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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