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  • CureTheSane
    Carpe Noctem
    • Jan 2003
    • 5032

    Originally posted by laughingnome
    Jolly is worth a top 5 draft pick at the very least, especially considering he was a nobody at pick 15 when we got him from Melbourne. Any player trade needs to involve a BOG gun coming our way.
    Well, maybe the Swans made a really bad trade there.
    Turned out to be a great trade, but AT THE TIME, you'd have to say that we probably gave too much up for Jolly.
    But I guess that's the problem with ruckmen.
    Good ruckmen are and to come by and attract a premium price.

    In the end the Swans knew what they were doing and Jolly was an awesome deal.
    Hopefully they can repeat that this trade season with more players.
    The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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    • Jeffers1984
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 4564

      Mclean went for Carltons pick 11.

      That should put a much higher value on Jolly.

      Collingwood take note.
      Official Driver Of The "Who Gives A @@@@ As The Player Will Get Delisted Anyway" Bandwagon.

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      • CureTheSane
        Carpe Noctem
        • Jan 2003
        • 5032

        Originally posted by Reggi
        Roos On radio

        Not close on Jolly, but early
        Lot's of players at end of week
        Barry Hall 3rd round pick is being asked for now
        Asked for by the Swans or the Bulldogs?
        If they are asking for a round three trade for Hall, we should get a bit more.
        If we are asking for a round 3'er for Hall we will be lucky to get off that well.

        Semantics now really.
        Deal appears to be done for all intents and purposes.

        |Maybe the Swans should wait and see if the Dogs end up trading in other draft selections we may prefer.
        Waiting also will concern the Dogs that we may trade a draft selection or two and by completely unwilling to trade our 3rd round selection.
        The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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        • Industrial Fan
          Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
          • Aug 2006
          • 3318

          Originally posted by ugg
          I suspect we may be trading 28 anyway for McGlynn/Kennedy so it doesn't matter too much in the whole scheme of things
          Jolly + 3rd round for Kennedy and pick 9 would seem fair to me.
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          • Jeffers1984
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 4564

            Details of the Seaby trade

            Under the complex trade, Sydney traded small forward Aamon Buchanan to Brisbane and received pick 28 in return, West Coast traded Staker to Brisbane and received Dalziell and pick 39, while Seaby moved to Sydney with pick 39 swapped for pick 22
            so we got pick 39 as well???
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            • Robbo
              On the Rookie List
              • May 2007
              • 2946

              Originally posted by Industrial Fan
              Jolly + 3rd round for Kennedy and pick 9 would seem fair to me.
              Problem is Hawthorn want to use that pick on Burgoyne.

              I think we are better off dealing with Collingwood. Pelchen is a meat head.

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              • Ludwig
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                Originally posted by Industrial Fan
                Jolly + 3rd round for Kennedy and pick 9 would seem fair to me.
                That's the deal I'd be hoping for as well. Much better investment from the Hawks point of view than wasting pick 9 on Burgoyne. They've got plenty of good midfielders.

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                • Steve
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 676

                  I'm not as fazed by using pick 22 rather than 28 - most likely immaterial as we'll use it for another trade, or (more likely) take it to the draft and get the same player we're keen on anyway. If we have gained pick 39 then even more comfortable with doing so.

                  Our last couple of second-round picks have been that way - we wanted Hannebery and Meredith all along and knew other clubs wouldn't take them until later in those drafts.

                  The focus on "x round pick" is totally misleading IMO - each of the Bulldogs' picks are only 3 off being into the next round anyway. Their third-rounder is effectively the same as an early fourth-round pick, and so on.

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                  • Tuhob
                    Pushing for Selection
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 65

                    Looks like the WB's want to play hard ball:

                    TRADE WEEK: The Western Bulldogs don't want to give up a third-round draft pick in straight swap for Barry Hall. May actually wait for draft



                    I reckon we stick to our guns (ie 3rd round pick or better) or if need be send him to the PSD.

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                    • caj23
                      Senior Player
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 2462

                      Originally posted by Industrial Fan
                      Jolly for Kennedy and pick 9 would seem fair to me.
                      Edited for accuracy

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                      • satchmopugdog
                        Bandicoots ears
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 3691

                        Originally posted by Jeffers1984
                        I had to draw a diagram to understand that one but I think the answer is yes Jeffers
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                        • caj23
                          Senior Player
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 2462

                          Originally posted by Steve
                          The focus on "x round pick" is totally misleading IMO - each of the Bulldogs' picks are only 3 off being into the next round anyway. Their third-rounder is effectively the same as an early fourth-round pick, and so on.
                          That is exact;y why we should be demanding their 2nd round pick. Their 3rd rounder is worth zilch

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                          • liz
                            Veteran
                            Site Admin
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 16778

                            Originally posted by Jeffers1984

                            Slightly surprised, in that I would have thought that pick would have gone to Brisbane rather than us.

                            Might give us the option of sending both 38 and 39 to the Dorks for the reported interest in both Kennedy and McGlynn, rather than 28 for both. Guess it will partly depend on how many picks the Hawks expect to us.

                            If we get a first round pick for Jolly, three picks in the top 30 might just about do us.

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                            • ugg
                              Can you feel it?
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15971



                              Rodney Eade said the sticking point for the Hall trade was that the Dogs were looking for the Swans to throw in a late-round pick as well.
                              Hall for an upgrade of 7 places in the 3rd-4th rounds. Seems fair, don't it.
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                              • CureTheSane
                                Carpe Noctem
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 5032

                                Yeah, if the Dogs won't give up their 3rd rounder for Hall, then let him go in the draft.

                                As for Collingwood and Jolly, I'd love to see them let Jolly slip through their hands just like Plugger did
                                The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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