Bazza is off to ...

[swansrob]

We should recruit Staker and he can take on Hall when we play the dogs next year.

[Kirkari]

,Yeah,spectators have to realise all that "rough stuff" is just letting off tension.It's not real! Guys have a drink with each other afterwards. The guy who slugs you that hardest is the one you have the biggest laugh with after the game.

I don't buy that for a second! Maybe true at social level but not in the AFL. Kirk's comment in a recent interview was that "maybe" after he retires he will be able to develop friendships with some of his epic opponents, but not yet.

[Hartijon]

Why? He didn't have a broken jaw, in fact he played the next week and was reported for striking!

Baz apologised and I believe genuinely so. No professional AFL footballer (with maybe a couple of exceptions) goes out wanting to seriously hurt another purposely. They maybe snap or lose it. There is a comraderie between gladiators but that doesn't mean they won't go hell for leather at each other during the gamewithin the rules of the game. Players regret it if they do purposely hurt each other and the long memories means it is a dangerous thing to do.Retribution can come swiftly and unexpectedley. It was wise of Lloyd to retire rather than face Hawthorn again.

I still believe my earlier post that BAZ is seriously overrated by this post. Look at our star O'Keefe last year.! Nobody wanted him so why would they line up for BAZ after his track record since 2006 GF? For two years in a row we played better without him and who wants a player that cannot control himself? If guru Kirk cannot quiet him down can you see Eade of Johston doing it? Baz I sadly feel will just fade out of the game.
I think Baz will be on the PSD and grabbed by Fremantle which has no recognizable player plan.

[caj23]

Why? He didn't have a broken jaw, in fact he played the next week and was reported for striking!

Actually he didn't play the following week against Port Adeliade due to concussion and obviously wasn't reported for striking

[Bloodlines]

Barry Hall a Doggie

Request for info here gang. if Baz goes to the doggies what do we settle for? I note some saying Swans won't play hard ball as they want barry to be settled soemwhere. Why not play hardball? this a chance for a high draft pick and maybe a player. I can't see Swans falling for the softly softly approach. Especially as with the new stadium deal; in Melbourne the Vic clubs are rolling in money (after years of bleating maybe now they will shut up) We need to get as much for Hall as we can. And we need trade concessions and a lift in our salary cap.

[Primmy]

Bloodlines, Swans have always gone softly softly, and done brilliantly. BBB has resigned from the Club, but still needs releases etc. So, scratch my back, I'll scratch yours will be the go, as usual. We have no hardball to play with.

[DST]

Reports suggest that the Doggies will be happy to let go their third pick. but we may try it on for a second round.

Probably end up being a third round pick and a fringe player like Tom Lynch in the end, which in all circumstances is adequate.

And for those calling for Everitt Jnr as the fringe player get real. On the open market he is worth a late first rounder and will not be part of this deal. unless it is a straight swap and that is highly unlikely.

DST

[caj23]

I reckon we should be asking for a 2nd rounder on the following basis:

1. They finished 4th and a late 3rd rounder is almost a 4th rounder

2. Aker was worth pick 32 - Hall is worth the equivalent

3. They are desparate to get him

I'm not suggesting that we go OTT and stuff it all up, but we should be reasonably compensated in the trade

[rojo]

I would go for Everitt junior in the deal for Bazza. With our 7 most senior players holding the team together next year, who is our next premiership team going to be built around? Apart from perhaps LRT of the 2nd tier players, it would be McVeigh, hopefully Malceski, along with Jack and Grundy and hopefully, White, Johnston, Smith, Bird, Hanno, Vesz, Meredith and Currie. Everitt seems to rate and would potentially be a good addition to that group.

[Mr Magoo]

I just hope we dont be all reasonable and easy just because somehow the Swans feel guilty about the circumstances of the departure and we get sucked into trading with them on the basis that they are taking a chance on a loose cannon.

Bulldogs premiership window is open, they are desperate for a ready made big forward and there are few options and certainly none internally that are likely to spring up in the next six months.

As an aside , I tell you what I will be really pissed off with Hall if he comes out and plays a disciplined game of football with no losses of temper or tantrums when things arent going his way. If Bulldogs get the Hall of 2005 and 2006 in this trade we should feel mighty ripped off.

[BeeEmmAre]

Can't fathom why

a) the Swans would be interested in Bradshaw, given his age and where the team is currently at

b) the Lions would have the slightest interest in offloading Bradshaw, given where their team is currently at

c) if for some bizarre reason Bradshaw was available to another club, the Dogs wouldn't just go for him. He'd probably cost them less in $ though more in trade currency. But he'd be a far less risky option than Hall given Hall's uncertain onfield temperament.

Good queries as usual Liz.

a) Yes, Bradshaw is about to turn 31, but that still makes him younger than the two key forwards we have just lost, and if a genuine full forward was to be on the market we'd be mad not to look at him.

b) I dunno why either, he's an out and out star despite having always had to play second fiddle to Lynch and now Brown. I just ran with the comment in the story Hall off to Bulldogs posted by ugg yesterday, which said the following:

The Bulldogs denied reports they had offered Matthew Lloyd a two-year deal or even spoken to the retiring Essendon captain and have reportedly not entertained a trade with the Brisbane Lions for Daniel Bradshaw, who has been unofficially put forward by the Lions.

c) Again, I can't answer that - but the closest to an answer is also in the above par from The Age story.

[DeadlyAkkuret]

I just hope we dont be all reasonable and easy just because somehow the Swans feel guilty about the circumstances of the departure and we get sucked into trading with them on the basis that they are taking a chance on a loose cannon.

Bulldogs premiership window is open, they are desperate for a ready made big forward and there are few options and certainly none internally that are likely to spring up in the next six months.

Agree, we'll probably just end up with a 3rd rounder + fringe player and that would be acceptable, but trading is about trying to get the best deal first which is why we need to push for Everitt.

As an aside , I tell you what I will be really pissed off with Hall if he comes out and plays a disciplined game of football with no losses of temper or tantrums when things arent going his way. If Bulldogs get the Hall of 2005 and 2006 in this trade we should feel mighty ripped off.

I was thinking about this, I'm happy for Hall and am glad he's playing for a club that I don't hate, but if things don't go his way and he's all calm about it I'll feel betrayed and really disappointed. Some people on here think we treated him unfairly, but he was given many chances by us.

I blame most of it on the umpires, anyway.

[robamiee]

would prefe him to be in the red and white....

Good luck to him, except against our boys..

Bolton will be the one who gets him.

[Robbo]

hall should still be a swan it will be awful to see him in dogs colours. wish him the best, but would love to see him in the red and white still

Not really.

[Legs Akimbo]

This may seem like a dumb question, but BBBH started the year playing for Sydney. The retired, briefly, and has announced his comeback. Why is he not coming back with Sydney?

This whole situation is confusing.