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  • magic.merkin
    Senior Player
    • Jul 2008
    • 1199

    #76
    Originally posted by Hartijon
    Cyril Rioli the most overrated player in the League??? I could give you a long list of players that would come before him starting with Chris Judd. I admit i haven't seen a lot of him and no doubt he still gets beaten sometimes,he is after all very young but what i have seen is sensational,game turning stuff. He makes something out of nothing and his tackling is tremendous. He would definately make our top 22 and at this stage is a much better player than Vezpa.The future (which some people seem to have strong opinions about) is pure speculation so not worth discussing! Any one of 3 different opinions could be right or wrong. Lets get back to reality.
    I tuned out after this, sorry,

    Hello Daisy Thomas etc....

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    • Jesse Richards
      On the Rookie List
      • Mar 2010
      • 292

      #77
      I suspect that for every player playing in the Reserves there a list if what he needs to achieve/concentrate on, and this would include sticking to the game plan and other specific instructions such as tagging, as well as off field matters such as attitude, mental toughness, fitness, physical development, training attendance and sustained effort. Ticking all the boxes would not necessarily mean that a player gets listed in the best for any particular game, but would be judged ready for senior promotion when the opportunity arose.

      I don't think it is a matter of someone on the Reserves' best list is automatically considered for a seniors game - not unless all the boxes are ticked. Form alone is not enough. I also don't think that morale would be adversely affected by any one player being promoted over another - each player would know what he has to achieve per his checklist and would know when his time will come. They are a team, greater than the sum of its parts.

      There is a place in any team for both solid team players and the "flashies". Vez seems to be in the latter category. And will, no doubt, be a very valuable player for us in the next few years when all the boxes on his particular checklist have been ticked.

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      • Matty10
        Senior Player
        • Jun 2007
        • 1331

        #78
        Good post, Jesse - spot on.

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        • Jesse Richards
          On the Rookie List
          • Mar 2010
          • 292

          #79
          Originally posted by Matty10
          Good post, Jesse - spot on.
          Thanks for the feedback, Matty10. I'm nowhere near as knowledgeable as most on this website but sometimes have insights that may be useful. I hope.

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          • Bleed Red Blood
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2003
            • 2057

            #80
            Originally posted by magic.merkin
            I tuned out after this, sorry,

            Hello Daisy Thomas etc....
            A couple of years ago yeh, but watch some C'Wood games nowadays - tremendous work ethic imo; he's everywhere, has lovely touch (Not in Pendelburys' league but that would come with his basketball background I suspect), and confident marking above his head. For a fourth (? I used to know all the drafts of the top of my head.. Was he 2005? Umm. Marc Murphy draft I think. 06?) he goes alright, granted he isn't getting tagged 'cause of the midfielders ahead of him, Swan, Pendels, Didak etc. Anyway, I rate him is what I'm trying to say.

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            • Plugger46
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2003
              • 3674

              #81
              Originally posted by Bleed Red Blood
              A couple of years ago yeh, but watch some C'Wood games nowadays - tremendous work ethic imo; he's everywhere, has lovely touch (Not in Pendelburys' league but that would come with his basketball background I suspect), and confident marking above his head. For a fourth (? I used to know all the drafts of the top of my head.. Was he 2005? Umm. Marc Murphy draft I think. 06?) he goes alright, granted he isn't getting tagged 'cause of the midfielders ahead of him, Swan, Pendels, Didak etc. Anyway, I rate him is what I'm trying to say.
              Was thinking exactly the same thing. He's having a very good year, people just have a fixed idea on him. He's proably under-rated actually, as everyone says he's over-rated. '05 draft I think.
              Last edited by Plugger46; 28 May 2010, 03:59 PM.
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              • Primmy
                Proud Tragic Swan
                • Apr 2008
                • 5970

                #82
                Originally posted by Jesse Richards
                Thanks for the feedback, Matty10. I'm nowhere near as knowledgeable as most on this website but sometimes have insights that may be useful. I hope.
                So we have got you fooled too have we Other Jesse?

                We all have little bits of inspiration which we like sharing with the world. Little gems of insight......however.......we have to admit it, its a case of Hit and Miss......except for me of course....
                If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                • BSA5
                  Senior Player
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 2522

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Bleed Red Blood
                  A couple of years ago yeh, but watch some C'Wood games nowadays - tremendous work ethic imo; he's everywhere, has lovely touch (Not in Pendelburys' league but that would come with his basketball background I suspect), and confident marking above his head. For a fourth (? I used to know all the drafts of the top of my head.. Was he 2005? Umm. Marc Murphy draft I think. 06?) he goes alright, granted he isn't getting tagged 'cause of the midfielders ahead of him, Swan, Pendels, Didak etc. Anyway, I rate him is what I'm trying to say.
                  Agree on that too. He's starting to really develop and perform on a consistent basis. I don't want to compare the two, because they are quite different players, but Gary Ablett Jnr's early career followed quite a similar pattern: inconsistent half-forward who couldn't really play midfield early, though was given short bursts there, and in the 4-5th season started showing something special. Gablett then broke out and became elite the next season. Daisy might do the same!
                  Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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                  • dimelb
                    pr. dim-melb; m not f
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 6889

                    #84
                    Perhaps a future nickname for Jack, or maybe Smith: daisycutter.
                    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                    • DeadlyAkkuret
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 4547

                      #85
                      So....

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                      • Kirkari
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 1036

                        #86
                        Originally posted by dimelb
                        Perhaps a future nickname for Jack, or maybe Smith: daisycutter.
                        No! Both too classy to be defined by reference to a lesser player, especially one from Collingwood.
                        Superman still wears Brett Kirk Pyjamas

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