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  • chalbilto
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2007
    • 1139

    According to newspaper reports today he wants to stay with the Swans and to get the deal done it involves upping his contact payment. The Swans are waiting to see what the overall spending cap will be. It seems that he would rather stay than go and I hope that this will be the case.

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    • crackedactor
      Regular in the Side
      • May 2012
      • 919

      Originally posted by Steve
      I think the point is you wouldn't say anything if you had definitely decided to leave.

      I don't recall Buddy, Ablett, Dangerfield et al being quoted as saying "yeah definitely" they wanted to stay late in the year before they left.

      Doesn't guarantee anything, but would be bizarre to have made up your mind to leave and be quoted that way now.
      Excellent point made. It would seem strange to say anything while discussions are being held with other clubs. Wonder if the prospect of the Swans being a successful side over the next few years (With some exciting young talent discovered this year) has influenced his decision in any way?? $500-550 K per year, does not seem a outrageous amount.

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      • longmile
        Crumber
        • Apr 2011
        • 3362

        Wish Reid's contract ended this year. He seems to be our biggest/only real money sink to me. I know people here would disagree with me. I'd trade Reid and keep Mitchell in a heartbeat

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        • Sandridge
          Outer wing, Lake Oval
          • Apr 2010
          • 2057

          Originally posted by chalbilto
          According to newspaper reports today he wants to stay with the Swans and to get the deal done it involves upping his contact payment. The Swans are waiting to see what the overall spending cap will be. It seems that he would rather stay than go and I hope that this will be the case.
          What I got from the articles is that, if he goes, it will have been the club's choice, not his. I hope he stays too.

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          • CureTheSane
            Carpe Noctem
            • Jan 2003
            • 5032

            Originally posted by longmile
            Wish Reid's contract ended this year. He seems to be our biggest/only real money sink to me. I know people here would disagree with me. I'd trade Reid and keep Mitchell in a heartbeat
            Won't get any disagreement from me, I'm on board with that 100%
            The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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            • barry
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 8499

              Originally posted by chalbilto
              According to newspaper reports today he wants to stay with the Swans and to get the deal done it involves upping his contact payment. The Swans are waiting to see what the overall spending cap will be. It seems that he would rather stay than go and I hope that this will be the case.
              In that case, I can see the AFL delaying the new salary cap details until such a time that Mitchel has left.
              "You cant have everyone".

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              • crackedactor
                Regular in the Side
                • May 2012
                • 919

                Originally posted by longmile
                Wish Reid's contract ended this year. He seems to be our biggest/only real money sink to me. I know people here would disagree with me. I'd trade Reid and keep Mitchell in a heartbeat
                I am surprised they are still persisting with Reid. It obvious his body cannot handle the demands of AFL footy. No other club would be interested in him. At the best they may get 4-5 games from him before he gets injured again.

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                • Ludwig
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9359

                  Originally posted by crackedactor
                  I am surprised they are still persisting with Reid. It obvious his body cannot handle the demands of AFL footy. No other club would be interested in him. At the best they may get 4-5 games from him before he gets injured again.
                  Swans
                  Persistence
                  Alex Johnson

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                  • caj23
                    Senior Player
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 2462

                    Originally posted by crackedactor
                    I am surprised they are still persisting with Reid. It obvious his body cannot handle the demands of AFL footy. No other club would be interested in him. At the best they may get 4-5 games from him before he gets injured again.
                    If you disregard this year he's played 20+ games in 4 of his past 5 seasons, which hardly backs up your argument.

                    He's obviously not going to play this year now, but he 100% improves our team if he's in. He's superior to Xavier forward and has the versatility to play wing or key defence.

                    - - - Updated - - -

                    Back on topic, that article in the Herald Sun didn't fill me with confidence as the headline didn't match the content.

                    I hope we retain Tom, but there was nothing specific in that article that suggested he was definitely staying

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                    • Ludwig
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9359

                      I'll bet there are a few young players that quietly hope Mitchell get's traded. More money and midfield time on offer. You can start with Heeney and Mills.

                      I would make this offer to either Carlton or Richmond:

                      We give them Mitchell, Towers and throw in Hiscox and McGlynn if they want, plus our 2nd and 3rd round picks.
                      We get their 1st round pick this year and 2nd round pick next year. So that's a top 6 pick this year and a pick in the 20s next year.

                      That gives us 6 senior spots open. We have 2 first round picks this year and elevate 4 rookies: Papley, Newman, Foote and Marsh. We need to create space for talent coming through the system.

                      If Reid and AJ come good with their injuries there won't even be room for Abe Davis to play as a KPP. But we can play him as a big bodied midfielder. He's capable of being like a Patrick Cripps or Bontimpelli.

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                      • Meg
                        Go Swannies!
                        Site Admin
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 4828

                        Originally posted by barry
                        In that case, I can see the AFL delaying the new salary cap details until such a time that Mitchel has left.
                        "You cant have everyone".
                        That keeps getting misquoted. What McLachlan actually said was "You can't have everything". By which he meant (in a poor attempt to justify the trade ban) the Swans couldn't have COLA for two more years (2015 & 2016) and be able to trade. Still obnoxious but not quite the same as is being remembered.

                        Also I see it is being reported today that the negotiations between the AFL and the AFLPA on the new collective agreement (which will set the TPP for future years) might not be concluded till after the finals. That must make it more difficult for the Swans to put any revised offer to Mitchell.

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                        • CureTheSane
                          Carpe Noctem
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 5032

                          Originally posted by Ludwig
                          I'll bet there are a few young players that quietly hope Mitchell get's traded. More money and midfield time on offer. You can start with Heeney and Mills.

                          I would make this offer to either Carlton or Richmond:

                          We give them Mitchell, Towers and throw in Hiscox and McGlynn if they want, plus our 2nd and 3rd round picks.
                          We get their 1st round pick this year and 2nd round pick next year. So that's a top 6 pick this year and a pick in the 20s next year.

                          That gives us 6 senior spots open. We have 2 first round picks this year and elevate 4 rookies: Papley, Newman, Foote and Marsh. We need to create space for talent coming through the system.

                          If Reid and AJ come good with their injuries there won't even be room for Abe Davis to play as a KPP. But we can play him as a big bodied midfielder. He's capable of being like a Patrick Cripps or Bontimpelli.
                          All of that except Towers. I like the boy
                          The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                          • caj23
                            Senior Player
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 2462

                            Originally posted by Ludwig
                            I'll bet there are a few young players that quietly hope Mitchell get's traded. More money and midfield time on offer. You can start with Heeney and Mills.

                            I would make this offer to either Carlton or Richmond:

                            We give them Mitchell, Towers and throw in Hiscox and McGlynn if they want, plus our 2nd and 3rd round picks.
                            We get their 1st round pick this year and 2nd round pick next year. So that's a top 6 pick this year and a pick in the 20s next year.

                            That gives us 6 senior spots open. We have 2 first round picks this year and elevate 4 rookies: Papley, Newman, Foote and Marsh. We need to create space for talent coming through the system.

                            If Reid and AJ come good with their injuries there won't even be room for Abe Davis to play as a KPP. But we can play him as a big bodied midfielder. He's capable of being like a Patrick Cripps or Bontimpelli.
                            Why would we want to trade Mitchell when we are in the middle of our premiership window and there's no guarantee that pick 6 will ever be as good as Mitchell?

                            Whilst you're thinking laterally in terms of list management, there's a few flaws with your strategy, namely:

                            1. Hiscox and McGlynn have no trade value whatsoever whilst Towers would be lucky to be worth a late 3rd/4th rounder.

                            2. Richmond and Carlton wouldn't have the cap or list space for multiple players even if they wanted them (and they probably wouldn't)

                            3. It's not Supercoach, these guys are real people with real lives, packing them up and moving them to a new city/club is not as simple as pressing a trade button

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                            • rojo
                              Opti-pessi-misti
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 1102

                              One of the AFL's biggest improvers, prolific Sydney onballer Tom Mitchell is poised to re-sign with the Swans as soon as next week.

                              Mitchell's manager Phil Mullen and the Swans officials met on Tuesday regarding a new deal and while an in-principle agreement has yet to be reached there is good will on both sides for a deal to be agreed next week. Michael Gleeson, The Age

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                              • Steve
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 676

                                Originally posted by rojo
                                One of the AFL's biggest improvers, prolific Sydney onballer Tom Mitchell is poised to re-sign with the Swans as soon as next week.

                                Mitchell's manager Phil Mullen and the Swans officials met on Tuesday regarding a new deal and while an in-principle agreement has yet to be reached there is good will on both sides for a deal to be agreed next week. Michael Gleeson, The Age
                                Article Dated: Jun 15, 2016

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