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  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16736

    There are minimum payment structures in place with the AFLPA. I don't know exactly what level they are at nowadays, but taking into account match payments, I don't think a club can pay a player actually playing senior footy less than $100k, and it could well be a bit more than that. I daresay the Swans have had players towards the end of their contracts playing for close to the minimum wage, just so that they get to keep on playing.

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    • mcs
      Travelling Swannie!!
      • Jul 2007
      • 8149

      Originally posted by Beerman
      I wouldn't be surprised if that were actually the case. By the time you get to that point of your career, I think most people would just be hanging around for the enjoyment of the game.
      I'm not doubting the money they will be on is small - but more around the ongoing story we hear every year about Hawks stars taking 'paycuts' to fund the recruitment of new highly paid stars. The amount of times I've heard that same dribble year after year they must all be on zero dollars by now! There is only so many times they can take pay cuts to fund other player acquisitions...
      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16736

        Originally posted by mcs
        I'm not doubting the money they will be on is small - but more around the ongoing story we hear every year about Hawks stars taking 'paycuts' to fund the recruitment of new highly paid stars. The amount of times I've heard that same dribble year after year they must all be on zero dollars by now! There is only so many times they can take pay cuts to fund other player acquisitions...
        Actually not true. Just bear in mind how many players the Swans were able to recruit solely by misusing the cost of living allowance. I've read the extra $1m or so being used to (completely) fund the salaries of Kennedy, McGlynn, Buddy and Tippett (as well as the now departed Mumford). I've often marvelled at the cleverness of the Swans' football department to recycle that allowance over so many different players.

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        • annew
          Senior Player
          • Mar 2006
          • 2164

          Originally posted by liz
          Actually not true. Just bear in mind how many players the Swans were able to recruit solely by misusing the cost of living allowance. I've read the extra $1m or so being used to (completely) fund the salaries of Kennedy, McGlynn, Buddy and Tippett (as well as the now departed Mumford). I've often marvelled at the cleverness of the Swans' football department to recycle that allowance over so many different players.
          Swans kept saying that the COLA was not misused and that each player was given the 10%. All cintracts were signed off by the AFL. I find it farcical thatbthere was all the furore over swans revruitment within the salary cap of Tippett and Buddy yet Hawks keep recruiting and keep their older highly paid players.

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          • Meg
            Go Swannies!
            Site Admin
            • Aug 2011
            • 4828

            Originally posted by annew
            I find it farcical that there was all the furore over swans recruitment within the salary cap of Tippett and Buddy yet Hawks keep recruiting and keep their older highly paid players.
            Hawthorn's ability to keep their older, highly paid players has been assisted up to and including this year by the use of the veterans' allowance. However this allowance will be abolished from 2017 so I think Hawthorn should be under some cap pressure, depending on the extent of salary cap increase when the AFL announces the new financial arrangements.

            The veterans' allowance also assisted the Swans to manage their salary cap when recruiting Tippett and Franklin, but most of our older players who were eligible to be on the veterans' list have now retired.

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            • RogueSwan
              McVeigh for Brownlow
              • Apr 2003
              • 4602

              Originally posted by liz
              Actually not true. Just bear in mind how many players the Swans were able to recruit solely by misusing the cost of living allowance. I've read the extra $1m or so being used to (completely) fund the salaries of Kennedy, McGlynn, Buddy and Tippett (as well as the now departed Mumford). I've often marvelled at the cleverness of the Swans' football department to recycle that allowance over so many different players.
              Originally posted by annew
              Swans kept saying that the COLA was not misused and that each player was given the 10%. All cintracts were signed off by the AFL. I find it farcical thatbthere was all the furore over swans revruitment within the salary cap of Tippett and Buddy yet Hawks keep recruiting and keep their older highly paid players.
              Maybe your browser doesn't support the "sarcastica" font that liz was using
              "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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              • AnnieH
                RWOs Black Sheep
                • Aug 2006
                • 11332

                Originally posted by Beerman
                I wouldn't be surprised if that were actually the case. By the time you get to that point of your career, I think most people would just be hanging around for the enjoyment of the game.
                Burgoyne said about a month ago on fox that he and his dirty mates would be prepared to take a salary cut to stay on.
                #freekickhawthorn
                Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                • southsideswan
                  Warming the Bench
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 237

                  It may be a calculated gamble by some of the longer term Hawks players. They would receive a significant sum outside the contract (legally). If their club can remain competitive this will flow at maximum level. To be competitive they need new blood and money to purchase such players. There is also the feeling they love playing footy (whatever the money) and there is nothing like doing it when you are winning.

                  It also does not hurt their reputation.

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                  • mcs
                    Travelling Swannie!!
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 8149

                    Originally posted by liz
                    Actually not true. Just bear in mind how many players the Swans were able to recruit solely by misusing the cost of living allowance. I've read the extra $1m or so being used to (completely) fund the salaries of Kennedy, McGlynn, Buddy and Tippett (as well as the now departed Mumford). I've often marvelled at the cleverness of the Swans' football department to recycle that allowance over so many different players.
                    Nice one Liz
                    "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                    • KTigers
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 2499

                      RWO fan fave Eddie McGuire put it aptly on AFL 360 last night when he said making $250K a year out in the real world is easier said than done, and even though some senior players are taking a pay cut they are still being paid fairly well.

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                      • crackedactor
                        Regular in the Side
                        • May 2012
                        • 919

                        Originally posted by mcs
                        Nice one Liz
                        Well Said. HEHEHE.!!

                        Just on the subject of actually not true subjects. They said on radio yesterday morning that they heard a rumour a Swan will announce their retirement, the commentator said hmmm maybe Jarrad McVeigh. The story was actually about Dane Swan retiring!!!

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                        • Beerman
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 823

                          Originally posted by mcs
                          I'm not doubting the money they will be on is small - but more around the ongoing story we hear every year about Hawks stars taking 'paycuts' to fund the recruitment of new highly paid stars. The amount of times I've heard that same dribble year after year they must all be on zero dollars by now! There is only so many times they can take pay cuts to fund other player acquisitions...
                          True, and every club does it, so it is not like they are gaining salary cap space that other clubs don't have. Goodes, Shaw et al. would all have been on smaller salaries in their final years.

                          That's what makes it possible for clubs like the Suns to poach players like Mal.

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                          • AnnieH
                            RWOs Black Sheep
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 11332

                            Hodge sells his soul to the devil... at a bargain basement price

                            Told youse!!!
                            They're taking pay cuts to stay.
                            Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                            Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                            • bloodsbigot
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 813

                              Originally posted by AnnieH
                              Hodge sells his soul to the devil... at a bargain basement price

                              Told youse!!!
                              They're taking pay cuts to stay.
                              The psychopath is probably getting sweet, sweet pokie money on the side.

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                              • jono2707
                                Goes up to 11
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 3326

                                Originally posted by bloodsbigot
                                The psychopath is probably getting sweet, sweet pokie money on the side.
                                Care to explain how that works?

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