Rd 17, 2010 Demons V Swans Pre-Game Discussion (with Teams)

[ugg]

Nothing on Mumford, but Walker also gets off which surprises me a little

MRP: Mackenzie gets a reprimand, Motlop 2 weeks, Walker gets off, Ash mcgrath 1 week, Cotchin 3 weeks.

[aardvark]

Phew, i thought Mummy was a goner, must be MRP guilty conscience....

[Triple B]

From MRP...

Contact between the Sydney Swans? Shane Mumford and Carlton?s Aaron Joseph from the third quarter of Sunday?s match was assessed. The panel said Mumford tackled Joseph with the ball and took him over the boundary line. While the pair were on the ground, Mumford pushed Joseph?s head into the ground in the final part of the tackle. The panel said the force was not sufficient to warrant a reportable offence, and Joseph required no medical treatment for the incident. No further action was taken.

Contact between the Sydney Swans? Martin Mattner and Carlton?s Jarrad Waite, as well as contact between Waite and Mattner, from the fourth quarter of Sunday?s match was assessed. The matter was investigated by the Match Review Panel and, on the evidence of both players that was received, it was determined that no reportable offence had occurred. No further action was taken.

Struggling to remember any comment on the Mattner/Waite incident/s on the TV coverage. Anybody at the ground have an insight??

[Triple B]

.... but Walker also gets off which surprises me a little

He didn't get off per se, he was found guilty but with a good record he gets it down below a suspension. Early plea gets it even further below. But I agree, he'd count himself pretty lucky I'd imagine.

[Melbournehammer]

From MRP...

Contact between the Sydney Swans? Shane Mumford and Carlton?s Aaron Joseph from the third quarter of Sunday?s match was assessed. The panel said Mumford tackled Joseph with the ball and took him over the boundary line. While the pair were on the ground, Mumford pushed Joseph?s head into the ground in the final part of the tackle. The panel said the force was not sufficient to warrant a reportable offence, and Joseph required no medical treatment for the incident. No further action was taken.

Contact between the Sydney Swans? Martin Mattner and Carlton?s Jarrad Waite, as well as contact between Waite and Mattner, from the fourth quarter of Sunday?s match was assessed. The matter was investigated by the Match Review Panel and, on the evidence of both players that was received, it was determined that no reportable offence had occurred. No further action was taken.

Struggling to remember any comment on the Mattner/Waite incident/s on the TV coverage. Anybody at the ground have an insight??

I didn't see the initial incident but mattner definitely complained to the nearby field umpire - it was in the fourth quarter very close to our goals - waite then walked over to him after the complaint and they sort of put their heads together but there was no actual headbutt.

[mcs]

Phew great to hear Mummy is good to go for the weekend- he is having a superb season and you know with him in the team that we are never going to get badly beaten in the ruck.

[South Scout]

Is it just me or was ROK struggling on Sunday? Kicked on right foot several times, and passing up the 45m set shot to McVeigh. Seemed like he was restricted in the buttock/hamstring area, would it be reasonable to rest him this week against Melbourne? I would hate to see him miss 3-4 weeks heading into the tail end of the season.

[ScottH]

From MRP...

Contact between the Sydney Swans? Shane Mumford and Carlton?s Aaron Joseph from the third quarter of Sunday?s match was assessed. The panel said Mumford tackled Joseph with the ball and took him over the boundary line. While the pair were on the ground, Mumford pushed Joseph?s head into the ground in the final part of the tackle. The panel said the force was not sufficient to warrant a reportable offence, and Joseph required no medical treatment for the incident. No further action was taken.

Contact between the Sydney Swans? Martin Mattner and Carlton?s Jarrad Waite, as well as contact between Waite and Mattner, from the fourth quarter of Sunday?s match was assessed. The matter was investigated by the Match Review Panel and, on the evidence of both players that was received, it was determined that no reportable offence had occurred. No further action was taken.

Struggling to remember any comment on the Mattner/Waite incident/s on the TV coverage. Anybody at the ground have an insight??

I was obviously too far away to wee the Mummy incident.
But there was one where Marty launched himself almost sideways (horizontally) into a carlton player, Maybe that was the one.

[Bas]

On the Couch tonight showed a stat for forward half turnover conversion. Collingwood was 1st, Swans were 16th. Seems from that our forwards aren't working hard enough or the game plans not right.

[RogueSwan]

LRT and Smith hamstrings, McVeigh a bad calf so who comes in?...

Just watching the game again - was McVeigh's knee injury when he got the free kick that lead to his first goal? The commentators actually said "he felt the high contact and buckled at the knees". Watching the replay it looks like Hampson, all 100kgs of him, fell on Jarrad's right knee as it was outside the line of his body.

Actually, continuing the replay he was definitely limping after that goal

[aardvark]

On the Couch tonight showed a stat for forward half turnover conversion. Collingwood was 1st, Swans were 16th. Seems from that our forwards aren't working hard enough or the game plans not right.

Problem is most of our forwards are resting midfielders.

[EMJ]

Four of us going down to Jude's 250th and also attending ladies lunch. Looking forward to both. But definitely hope the team wins for Jude the hard worker always giving 110% and never often mentioned in the Best players.

[swansrob]

I'm annoyed I'm going to miss this.
I had my Kirk farewell game in Round 4 against North (which was the only game the fixture and my travel plans allowed for with my membership).

[giant]

On the Couch tonight showed a stat for forward half turnover conversion. Collingwood was 1st, Swans were 16th. Seems from that our forwards aren't working hard enough or the game plans not right.

Yeh, it was an interesting stat wasn't it? Wasn't sure whether this reflected the absence of Moore (who had a ripper crumbing goal on Sun) and McGlynn, or we were really good at converting our chances once inside 50, or we were just crap at forward pressure (which as we all know is "so hot right now" with commentators).

What do others think? You'd think more time for the Boltons, Kirks & Kennedys in the frwd line would lift this figure but perhaps that's not the case.

[swansrule100]

Yeh, it was an interesting stat wasn't it? Wasn't sure whether this reflected the absence of Moore (who had a ripper crumbing goal on Sun) and McGlynn, or we were really good at converting our chances once inside 50, or we were just crap at forward pressure (which as we all know is "so hot right now" with commentators).

What do others think? You'd think more time for the Boltons, Kirks & Kennedys in the frwd line would lift this figure but perhaps that's not the case.

port adelaide were second mind you so dont think its that bad to be 16th, but something to work on obviously. We tend not to have many people in our forward line sometimes, so easy for teams to drop back and clear