R19, AFL 2010 Swans V Hawks: Pre-game discussion

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • CJK
    Human
    • Apr 2006
    • 2170

    #61
    Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Merry fan but past two week been pretty pretty pretty poor.

    Not ROK poor but pretty poor.
    -

    Comment

    • ugg
      Can you feel it?
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 15976

      #62
      Originally posted by CJK
      Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Merry fan but past two week been pretty pretty pretty poor.
      How about

      Out: Merry
      In: Sam(wise) Reid
      Last edited by ugg; 3 August 2010, 12:53 PM.
      Reserves live updates (Twitter)
      Reserves WIKI -
      Top Goalkickers| Best Votegetters

      Comment

      • CJK
        Human
        • Apr 2006
        • 2170

        #63
        You're going a bit short imo
        -

        Comment

        • Q...
          On the Rookie List
          • Jun 2005
          • 237

          #64
          Originally posted by Triple B
          Talk of Jetta's run reminds me of something that totally pissed me off on Sat. night when he did it.

          He ran about 50m with Varcoe on his hammer. Was it too much to ask of a teammate to come in and take Varcoe out, shephard, scream out 'boo', anything, just get him off Jetstars tail so he can setup for a kick without that intense pressure?

          Ffs, it's just good team football, one of the HFF's should have got on his bike and charged towards the contest, letting Jetta know to just keep going and they'll take care of Varcoe.

          We have really dropped off on that aspect of our game.
          I've been thinking the same thing about lots of our games recently. Not just in relation to Jetta. There is a pronounced difference between the Swans and the teams that beat them in terms of shepherding, both when on a run and in close.

          Comment

          • Kanga
            On the Rookie List
            • Aug 2007
            • 274

            #65
            Originally posted by Q...
            I've been thinking the same thing about lots of our games recently. Not just in relation to Jetta. There is a pronounced difference between the Swans and the teams that beat them in terms of shepherding, both when on a run and in close.
            Aside from the bloke Varcoe was chasing, there is probably no Swan capable of catching up to Varcoe anyway!

            Comment

            • Go Swannies
              Veterans List
              • Sep 2003
              • 5697

              #66
              Originally posted by Triple B
              Talk of Jetta's run reminds me of something that totally pissed me off on Sat. night when he did it.

              He ran about 50m with Varcoe on his hammer. Was it too much to ask of a teammate to come in and take Varcoe out, shephard, scream out 'boo', anything, just get him off Jetstars tail so he can setup for a kick without that intense pressure?

              Ffs, it's just good team football, one of the HFF's should have got on his bike and charged towards the contest, letting Jetta know to just keep going and they'll take care of Varcoe.

              We have really dropped off on that aspect of our game.
              This is not a new development. I think I posted in 2005 asking why the Swans so rarely shepherded when every other team did it to good effect. Occasionally we do it but it seems like the player doing it is reverting to school games, rather than recent team training.

              I might ask at tomorrow's trivia. It'll be interesting to learn the rationale.

              Comment

              • hammo
                Veterans List
                • Jul 2003
                • 5554

                #67
                Some comments by Roos on Veszpremi and Johnston for us all to analyse...


                Bradshaw resumes running - Official AFL Website of the Sydney Swans Football Club


                ?Our seconds have been struggling a little bit. Some of the guys we would have liked to be playing haven?t really been putting enough pressure on the seniors? guys,?? Roos said.

                ?Hopefully we?ll see (Patrick) Veszpremi and Lewis Johnston and guys like that but we want to make sure they earn it. You don?t want to be handing games to guys at this stage of the year regardless.
                "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

                Comment

                • ugg
                  Can you feel it?
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15976

                  #68
                  So no changes again this week?
                  Reserves live updates (Twitter)
                  Reserves WIKI -
                  Top Goalkickers| Best Votegetters

                  Comment

                  • Nich
                    Senior Player
                    • May 2010
                    • 1291

                    #69
                    Time for Swans to Deliver - Ben McGlynn

                    Looks like it's Benny Mac's turn this week. Ha! Who picked the Winner?
                    Last edited by Nich; 3 August 2010, 03:25 PM.

                    Comment

                    • Mr Magoo
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2008
                      • 1255

                      #70
                      Originally posted by hammo
                      Some comments by Roos on Veszpremi and Johnston for us all to analyse...


                      Bradshaw resumes running - Official AFL Website of the Sydney Swans Football Club
                      I almost feel as if the question was popped to answer the punters here on RWO.

                      Unfortunately for those calling for these guys to play , his reasoning makes a lot of sense.

                      Comment

                      • ernie koala
                        Senior Player
                        • May 2007
                        • 3251

                        #71
                        Originally posted by hammo
                        Some comments by Roos on Veszpremi and Johnston for us all to analyse...


                        Bradshaw resumes running - Official AFL Website of the Sydney Swans Football Club
                        ?Our seconds have been struggling a little bit. Some of the guys we would have liked to be playing haven?t really been putting enough pressure on the seniors? guys,?? Roos said.

                        ?Hopefully we?ll see (Patrick) Veszpremi and Lewis Johnston and guys like that but we want to make sure they earn it. You don?t want to be handing games to guys at this stage of the year regardless."


                        The other side of this arguement is that, until they play these guys at AFL level, they won't know how they well they'll handle the pressure. Given this season has become one of.." learning for the future".. (as spin man Roos put it recently), surely playing the likes of Johnston for a few games would be beneficial, for both player and coaches, going into the next preseason with a clearer understanding of what is required of that player to succeed at the top level..
                        Last edited by ernie koala; 3 August 2010, 05:45 PM.
                        Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

                        Comment

                        • teddys mum
                          Warming the Bench
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 130

                          #72
                          Originally posted by liz
                          He's also spent the past month not playing, due to injury, and is clearly not match fit.
                          Aha! Yes, I have to admit I've not been paying very close attention to the injuries of late. I might have to moderate my criticism of Swans selection policy, well just a bit anyway.
                          up the guts

                          Comment

                          • hammo
                            Veterans List
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 5554

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Mr Magoo
                            I almost feel as if the question was popped to answer the punters here on RWO.

                            Unfortunately for those calling for these guys to play , his reasoning makes a lot of sense.
                            There are a few freebie games being handed to guys currently in the seniors who barely deserve it.
                            "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

                            Comment

                            • ScottH
                              It's Goodes to cheer!!
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 23665

                              #74
                              Originally posted by ugg
                              How about

                              Out: Merry
                              In: Sam(wise) Reid
                              Could be an epic journey.

                              Comment

                              • Legs Akimbo
                                Grand Poobah
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 2809

                                #75
                                Originally posted by hammo
                                There are a few freebie games being handed to guys currently in the seniors who barely deserve it.
                                Totally agree. Roos arguement makes no sense. He says the guys in the seconds have to earn it but it seems like, once you get in, you can play poorly for extended periods without repercussions at the selection table.

                                Earlier discussion about senior players not delivering 1%ers is the repercussion. This sort of policy robs both motivation from those on the fringe and those on the field.
                                He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

                                Comment

                                Working...