Swans and Jolly
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Jolly was not the reason we lost in 06. Neither was his wife.
Barry Hall -- our other high-profile walk-out from last year -- was the reason. And at least Jolly played the whole of his last season with us.
Come to think of it, Hall was the reason we were eliminated this year too. God I hate that guy!To all those people who waited 72 years to see a South Melbourne/Sydney Swans premiership HERE IT IS!!Comment
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Jolly was not the reason we lost in 06. Neither was his wife.
Barry Hall -- our other high-profile walk-out from last year -- was the reason. And at least Jolly played the whole of his last season with us.
Come to think of it, Hall was the reason we were eliminated this year too. God I hate that guy!Comment
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Don't forget a Collingwood supporter invented the tooth brush. Otherwise it would be called a teeth brush!Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.Comment
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Don't really care.
I'ts only a game. He's just a player having a bit of fun.
What I will say though is that if it's 10 times biggerbuild up and anticipation, the loss next Saturday will hurt 10 times moreThe difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.Comment
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Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.Comment
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Plugger, Hall, Spyda and many other recruits to the Swans have observed exactly the same thing in recent years, just from a different angle. They were able to live in comparative anonymity in Sydney as the hype surrounding footy (AFL) simply doesn't compare to that which is experienced in Melbourne.
Jolly said it was 10 times bigger.... I reckon that probably flatters Sydney. The Pies will train in front of thousands this week. Everywhere he goes, people will be clamouring to talk to him, interview him, photograph him, get his autograph. In supposedly the most sports mad city Australia if not the world, the biggest club with the most fans has made the Grand Final. Even if you don't support Collingwood, your feelings for them are still passionate - you hate them.
Look at it like this, if Collingwood had played the Kangaroos in an elimination final in torrential rain at Homebush, there would have been a lot more than 19k there, because they all would have somehow found a way to get there.
If he had said the build up is no bigger than it was in Sydney, it would have been an obvious and pointless lie.
I really can't understand why you've all got your knickers in knots...
And anyway, he's a bloody Collingwood player now, who gives a @@@@ what he thinks?Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sectorComment
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He's only speaking facts that anything with Collingwood is bigger! Whether we like it or not, Collingwood is our equivillent to Manchester United. The biggest club in the Country, hence the reason that every rival supporter hates them more than any other team! Me included. But to knock Jolly for saying that the build up is 10 times bigger??? Get over it, I have never read an article where Jolly has said anything bad against the swans and i'm sure he will always remember where he blossomed into the player he is today and won his first premiership. Lets just hope it's a good game and not a Collingwood blowout!Comment
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It has now been four years since the 2006 Grand Final, I think the dust has truely settled, whereupon a fair and objective analysis can be made of Jolly's decision or potential decision not to play in the game that year.
I have no serious issue about what happened in reality: him delaying the trip to Melbourne, losing significant sleep two nights before the game, and ultimately playing pooly.
Where I have an issue is his potential position that if the baby had been born on Grand Final day, he would not have played. Such a position would not have advanced the welfare of the baby, and merely disappointed the mother. But to let down his teammates, as well as hundreds of thousands of Swans supporters, simply so he could adhere to a selfish pursuit of seeing his child born, would have been unacceptable.
I think a playing a Grand Final for a professional AFL player can be compared with THE most important work function of any professional person, including a soldier at a battlefield, a surgeon performing a critical operation, a politician on election day, a school teacher attending to final exams with his students, a fireman attending to a fire. It is simply selfish to let so many people down just because you want to be there to see your child born.Last edited by top40; 20 September 2010, 03:04 PM.Comment
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