Swans and Jolly

[AnnieH]

Wow it must be offseason for this to attract so much attention.

Have a look at what Jolly actually said: "Especially this time, (it's) probably going to be times 10," he said. "The following that Collingwood have is second to none, in a way it sort of makes Sydney look small."

There's no putdown of the Swans there, just an observation about the focus on the two clubs, which seems pretty spot on to me. Perhaps Sydney-siders don't appreciate just how huge Collingwood are down here?

We're not that dumb, eh.
Trust me, we know how big the colliwobbles think they are.
(Everyone knows they've got the biggest membership in the country ... you'd have to be living at the bottom of a mine shaft not to know that.)

[swansrule100]

some people are sensitive sallys

[Midfield]

What a @@@@ thread. Good luck Jolls, you gave 100% when you played for the bloods and will always be a swans premiership player. Hope you kick a few.

[Matty10]

But I maintain it is selfish pursuit. Why are you there? How is your presence for any purpose other than to witness a wonderful event with the child's mother.

...or maybe he was there to support his wife through the delivery process???

Did Jolly have a boy or a girl? I wouldn't be too hard on him, he did play over 100 games for the Swans - and if he does have any boys (now or in the future) they could well make there way to us under the father-son rule. It might then be in the Swans' best interests for our fans not to slag him off at every opportunity.

(P.S. I take it that you are also a big Bill Lawry fan?)

[Kirkari]

I was at the birth of my children. I wish I'd been playing in a Grand Final instead.

It bloody well hurt

rofl

[Damien]

...or maybe he was there to support his wife through the delivery process???

Did Jolly have a boy or a girl? I wouldn't be too hard on him, he did play over 100 games for the Swans - and if he does have any boys (now or in the future) they could well make there way to us under the father-son rule. It might then be in the Swans' best interests for our fans not to slag him off at every opportunity.

(P.S. I take it that you are also a big Bill Lawry fan?)

I don't have a comment on the effect of him staying in Sydney for the birth but god help us all if we have to think about the F&S rule before bagging out players who leave the club! lol

[Primmy]

Ha, barely polled in the Brownlow

[msb]

Im well and truely over jolly leaving, good riddance I say. The fact is we wouldnt have mumford if jolly was still around, let him say what he likes, they wont win on saturday.

[Bas]

You all should all know by now that Dagwood can't speak for himself and it was probably horozontally expanded Mrs Jolly trying to blow air up her kyber on the mugpies wag list.

[supersall]

If there were a choice between giving birth and going to the granny .... I'm at the granny.

Annie, if you're the one giving birth, you may not get the choice!

[supersall]

Did Jolly have a boy or a girl? I wouldn't be too hard on him, he did play over 100 games for the Swans - and if he does have any boys (now or in the future) they could well make there way to us under the father-son rule. It might then be in the Swans' best interests for our fans not to slag him off at every opportunity.
(P.S. I take it that you are also a big Bill Lawry fan?)[/QUOTE]

Girl in 2006, Scarlett, how's that for living life in the red and white!?

[AnnieH]

Annie, if you're the one giving birth, you may not get the choice!

I'm sure they can give you injections now that will stop labour .... at least until the granny is over!!

(Thank L Ron Hubbard my biological clock is digital - I can't hear no tickin'!!)

[Hartijon]

I am confused.Was Jolly the one pregnant? If so ,no wonder his 2006 GF performance was down on what we expected. But it was very poor timing !

[Lucky Knickers]

When I think of Jolly and 2006 this is what I see..OUCH......

[sharp9]

It has now been four years since the 2006 Grand Final, I think the dust has truely settled, whereupon a fair and objective analysis can be made of Jolly's decision or potential decision not to play in the game that year.

I have no serious issue about what happened in reality: him delaying the trip to Melbourne, losing significant sleep two nights before the game, and ultimately playing pooly.

Where I have an issue is his potential position that if the baby had been born on Grand Final day, he would not have played. Such a position would not have advanced the welfare of the baby, and merely disappointed the mother. But to let down his teammates, as well as hundreds of thousands of Swans supporters, simply so he could adhere to a selfish pursuit of seeing his child born, would have been unacceptable.

I think a playing a Grand Final for a professional AFL player can be compared with THE most important work function of any professional person, including a soldier at a battlefield, a surgeon performing a critical operation, a politician on election day, a school teacher attending to final exams with his students, a fireman attending to a fire. It is simply selfish to let so many people down just because you want to be there to see your child born.

Yup I aggree...(in general not with ALL of your examples)....I'm an actor/singer...if you were playing the lead in a 15 million dollar production you would never, EVER in a million years miss opening night of (say) Les Miserables or Miss Saigon or Phantom of the Opera. You would say "Bloody hell, you'll never believe this but my child was born on opening night so I coiuldn't be there!"