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  • Dosser
    Just wild about Harry
    • Mar 2011
    • 1833

    Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
    I guess when we have a year we're we have had some really piss weak losses like this year, you have to have a look at the coach. He cant be blamed for this loss, or the Adelaide loss, or the Freo loss, or the manner of the Hawthorn loss, The carlton losses individually. However, when you add them all up, you have to ask why this year we've played terrible football for the most part ( lets not beat around the bush, we've beaten nothing, our good wins were mostly error riddled,and we've been abysmal against any side with an ounce of quality) when realistically i would thought we'd improve this year. Now i dont neccessarily mean we would have finished higher than last year, because there are some very good teams this year, but i would have thought we would improve on the goodd signs from last year, even if that didnt translate into a higher placing. Clearly, we are markedly worse than last year. Who do we blame for that ? ( Bradhsaw and Bolton not valid excuses )
    I really think that over the last few years we have failed to beat anybody above us on the ladder (positions at the time of actually playing them). This means that we have usually finished up exactly where we should have. Because of this, I would suggest that Longmire isnt all to blame here as we have a history of this. I guess the fact that we are now losing to teams below us is a problem, though.

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    • tez
      Warming the Bench
      • Jan 2003
      • 251

      We definitely need changes. We lack a dominant forward since Barry Hall departed and from memory two players have kicked 4 goals in a game this year. Suggestion. Give Seaby
      a start at full forward where he presents a target who can take a contested mark, is agile and not a bad kick. A back up with TDL starting in a forward pocket.

      Jetta is lost at the moment and lopes around so let him run the year out in the reserves. Malceski in for Kennelly and Bevo for Jude if he is injured.

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      • swannielady
        On the Rookie List
        • Jul 2011
        • 63

        Originally posted by Jewels
        Wolfy, I'm sorry if you took my text in capital letters to mean yelling, it was not intended that way, more to emphasise my point, so for that I apologize.
        I did say in my post that Longmire and co could very well take the blame for the lack of interest shown by the team on Sunday as I do think motivation is part of their responsibilities (I damn well wish they'd called me into the rooms at half time, I'd have motivated them).
        I started the season pro Longmire, I trusted Roos and the board to know what the best thing for Sydney was, I actually still believe it, it just doesn't seem to have progressed as smoothly as I had hoped and has resulted in a very dis-jointed season that has gone steadily downhill since about round 6, resulting in the humiliation on Sunday.
        So Wolfy, I'm sorry to have caused offence, you are of course entitled to your opinion as I am mine and I will try to play the ball a bit more in future and not so much of the man.
        Really nice post Jewels kudos to you, we all get abit heated and can take things personally (I for one have done the same). We are all actually wanting the Swans to do well but disagree how we do this. I get upset when my fav players are attacked but really they are big enough and ugly enough to look after themselves except for Goodsey (not ugly at all lol). Good post. Go Swans. PS...I know this was for Wolfie wanted to say someting about post. Tyvm

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        • Jewels
          On the Rookie List
          • Oct 2006
          • 3258

          Originally posted by swannielady
          Really nice post Jewels kudos to you, we all get abit heated and can take things personally (I for one have done the same). We are all actually wanting the Swans to do well but disagree how we do this. I get upset when my fav players are attacked but really they are big enough and ugly enough to look after themselves except for Goodsey (not ugly at all lol). Good post. Go Swans. PS...I know this was for Wolfie wanted to say someting about post. Tyvm
          Thanks for that Swannielady.
          What you say is quite correct, in the end we all want the same thing - the team to win (or at the very least try)!

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          • thommoone
            On the Rookie List
            • Jan 2003
            • 193

            I reckon we need to shake the team up with fresh blood. NO point going into finals as is, that is if we even make it, as we will get knocked out straight away. Might has well give the youngsters some experience. Would like to see somthing like this on the weekend.

            TDL Seaby Meredith
            Gordon Reid Johnston
            McVeigh Goodes Hannebery
            Rohan Grundy Mattner
            Johnson LRT/TED Smith

            R: Mummy, Parker, Jack
            INT: Bird, Kennedy, Sumner Sub: McGlyn
            Adam Goodes - The great red and white hope.

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            • Mr Magoo
              Senior Player
              • May 2008
              • 1255

              Gotta say Im suprised how many people on different threads this week think Pyke is the answer. For a non natural AFL player, he is unlikely to make too much impact coming back in this quickly from injury, particularly as a forward , a position he hasnt played that much of.

              But bring it on and we can slaughter horse again for not having a decent forward line yadda yadda yadda.

              Its the senior players that need to lift, not the last four selected every week. While it might be nice to think that getting rid of jetta , meredith, (insert name of other young current fringe player) will make the difference , it simply wont. We are where we are because of the lacklustre form last week of the likes of malceski, kenneally, mcglynn, mc veigh (with obvious excuses), bolton, mattner etc etc. If they lift then it doesnt really matter whether its meredith, pyke, tdl, jetta etc making up the final three or four selections. They are the icing not the cake.

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              • Cheer_Cheer
                Regular in the Side
                • Jul 2009
                • 739

                Get each Swans player to tell their opposite number that it is a new tradition to swap jumpers before the game..

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                • Nich
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2010
                  • 1291

                  Originally posted by thommoone
                  tdl seaby meredith
                  gordon reid johnston
                  mcveigh goodes hannebery
                  rohan grundy mattner
                  johnson lrt/ted smith

                  r: Mummy, parker, jack
                  int: Bird, kennedy, sumner sub: Mcglyn
                  ??

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                  • Triple B
                    Formerly 'BBB'
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 6999

                    Originally posted by Mr Magoo
                    Its the senior players that need to lift, not the last four selected every week. While it might be nice to think that getting rid of jetta , meredith, (insert name of other young current fringe player) will make the difference , it simply wont. We are where we are because of the lacklustre form last week of the likes of malceski, kenneally, mcglynn, mc veigh (with obvious excuses), bolton, mattner etc etc. If they lift then it doesnt really matter whether its meredith, pyke, tdl, jetta etc making up the final three or four selections. They are the icing not the cake.
                    I agree with most all of that, although I think Malceski may have every bit as good an excuse as McV for not contributing on the weekend...
                    Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                    • Mr Magoo
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2008
                      • 1255

                      Originally posted by Triple B
                      I agree with most all of that, although I think Malceski may have every bit as good an excuse as McV for not contributing on the weekend...
                      Yes my mistake. I guess I was thinking of his pretty awful form generally that lead to his demotion

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                      • ScottH
                        It's Goodes to cheer!!
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 23665

                        Look slike Rohan and Gordon will be in the team for this game.


                        Swans look to youth - AFL.com.au


                        Now for the outs?

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                        • swantastic
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 7275

                          the entire team bar jack,bevan and hannas
                          Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                          • caj23
                            Senior Player
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 2462

                            Originally posted by ScottH
                            Look slike Rohan and Gordon will be in the team for this game.


                            Swans look to youth - AFL.com.au


                            Now for the outs?
                            Good ins IMO

                            Outs are a bit more difficult. I still think we've got one too many talls in the team which is part of the reason we're getting run off our feet, I like AJ but a stint in the twos wouldn't hurt at this stage of the year

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                            • ernie koala
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2007
                              • 3251

                              Originally posted by ScottH
                              Look slike Rohan and Gordon will be in the team for this game.


                              Swans look to youth - AFL.com.au


                              Now for the outs?
                              Kennelly and Jetta...............I hope
                              Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                              • royboy42
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 2078

                                Originally posted by ernie koala
                                Kennelly and Jetta...............I hope
                                Kennelly has been a great servant of this club. Any talk of a 2012 contract is simply a dream.
                                If Rohan is ready this week I would have him in and , sadly , Kennelly out. And that would just be 'hanging up the boots' time.

                                If they think Malceski is ok to go this week,him for Jetta. The young man is going through the motions recently. His career is at a crossroads. He simply has to toughen up. Granted he has a slight frame, but if he cannot adapt it to a tackling style and to being able to hold his marks , his big time time is getting to an end. He just has not improved enough to justify his spot.

                                Nipper is knocking the door down as well...even more pressure on Jetta.

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