Mega merged trading thread

[Big Al]

Not at the moment for Fev, Horse says.

I might be straw clutching, but that's not a definite no!

It was a strange comment from Horse. Usually it's a definite no from the clubs but "not at the moment" does allow for some wriggle room.

[Reggi]

The Australian reported lukewarm interest in Meredith and Bevan. Not surprising on Meredith, doesn't seem to have a high workrate. Herald Sun mentioned some interest in Seaby from Port Adelaide.

Sounds like not a lot

[Bas]

Sharp, Ablett was no where near the number 1 draft prospect when he was drafted. He was a small forward with a suspect tank. Would have went there abouts in the real thing, maybe even lower if he wasn't picked up through father son.

Not according to everyone else in AFL. There was never anything suspect about him except how big a star he would become.

You might be getting confused with his brother Nathan.

[jono2707]

The Australian reported lukewarm interest in Meredith and Bevan. Not surprising on Meredith, doesn't seem to have a high workrate. Herald Sun mentioned some interest in Seaby from Port Adelaide.

Sounds like not a lot

I'd like to see us keep Meredith - I still think he has improvement in him and could develop further in 2012. Too early to be giving up on him IMHO.

[ABloodsMan]

Not according to everyone else in AFL. There was never anything suspect about him except how big a star he would become.

You might be getting confused with his brother Nathan.

No, he came through in the same draft as Hodge/Judd/Ball/Bartel. And he was no where near as highly rated as those guys. The vezspremi of his draft. Although he came good.

[liz]

ABloodsMan is on the money re Ablett's perceived value at the time of the draft. His surname might have meant he went slightly higher than he did under the FS but he wouldn't have gone at a draft spot that reflects his actual performances.

Tom Hawkins was the one touted as a top 5 pick that the Cats got for next to nothing, and the player that caused the AFL to change the rules to introduce the bidding system.

[royboy42]

No point in bitchin about Freo making sure we paid the max possible for Mitchell...

It's a business people..a business.

These guys are in competition with us, on AND off the field.

[bennyfabulous]

Was there any chance of us using pick #21 on a trade before the bidding system for FS's to thwart the system?. That way we could of got something for pick #21 and then used our next pick on Mitchell. Or even trade all our picks and save 1 for Mitchell.

[ABloodsMan]

Nope, Father/son bidding happens before trade week officially begins.

[swansrob]

Was there any chance of us using pick #21 on a trade before the bidding system for FS's to thwart the system?. That way we could of got something for pick #21 and then used our next pick on Mitchell. Or even trade all our picks and save 1 for Mitchell.

The FS bidding takes place first thing Monday morning of trade week. There's no thwarting the system.

[bennyfabulous]

Ahh, Makes sense i guess. Im sure he wil be worth it anyway.

[Bas]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/124979/default.aspx

Seems we can trade back "valued stopper" Dempster as he remains unsigned.

Collingwood off loading half-forward Brent Macaffer and midfield prospect John McCarthy. That would be a good swap for Seaby maybe.

[707]

From what I've read of the opinions of those who really do know, Tom Mitchell was rated a top half dozen prospect this year if he wasn't F-S.

So to get him during one of the last two drafts was a bonus as if it hadn't been for GWS having 9 picks early in the draft we would have had a first pick of 12 this year and you can bet whoever had 10 or 11 would have bid for him to make us use pick 12. On the basis he should have been say pick 6, we got him 15 picks cheap, like getting Gary Rohan for pick 21.

The Bulldogs struck real gold last year only having to use picks 22 and 44 from memory to grab a top 10 and top 20 prospect. So the two big winners during these two comprimised drafts have been the Bulldogs and ourselves, mmmm, nice :-)

Now lets hope Tom Mitchell has a long and successful career which I'm sure he will. Seems to be made of the bloods stuff and has a balanced mature head on his shoulders. He should be another brick in our new look midfield which I'm liking more all the time.

[The Big Cat]

There's no thwarting the system.

Seems GWS is thwarting the other system which makes them trade their selected 17 year olds. Seems they are trying to work a deal with three other clubs that would see that prized kid be passed through other hands and back to GWS. Smacks of draft laundering!

[liz]

Seems GWS is thwarting the other system which makes them trade their selected 17 year olds. Seems they are trying to work a deal with three other clubs that would see that prized kid be passed through other hands and back to GWS. Smacks of draft laundering!

Definitely smacks of draft laundering. Though apparently Andy A has now come out and said that the deal won't wash. The report on the AFL website is a bit amiguous because on the one hand it quotes Anderson as saying the proposed trade is against the spirit of these picks being intended to be on-traded, yet also says that a deal of this nature hasn't been completely ruled out. The latter only makes sense if the AFL has rejected the proposed deal on a technicality (eg one of more legs of the trade clearly aren't "fair value), leaving the door open to the clubs reworking an alternative proposal. If they have rejected it based on "the spirit" of the intention, it is hard to see how any variation will be accepted.

What this is doing is taking up loads of energy of the four clubs involved, which presumably is irritating other clubs hoping to get deals done. It will be interesting to see the reaction of the three non-GWS clubs if the whole concept is thwarted, given for a while they thought they'd be getting something pretty value for close to nothing. Will they sulk? Will they be more aggressive in their subsequent approach to trades?